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From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: "Fr d ric L. W. Meunier" <0@pervalidus.net>
Cc: Jocelyn Mayer <jocelyn.mayer@netgem.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fix for include/linux/fs.h in 2.4.0 kernels
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 14:10:03 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12656.981169803@ocs3.ocs-net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 03 Feb 2001 00:49:26 -0200." <20010203004926.M160@pervalidus.dyndns.org>

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:49:26 -0200, 
Fr d ric L. W. Meunier <0@pervalidus.net> wrote:
>Keith Owens wrote:
>> Relying on /usr/include/{linux,asm} always pointing at the
>> current kernel source is broken as designed.
>
>From glibc 2.2.1 FAQ:
>
>2.17.   I have /usr/include/net and /usr/include/scsi as symlinks
>	into my Linux source tree.  Is that wrong?
>
>{PB} This was necessary for libc5, but is not correct when
>using glibc. Including the kernel header files directly in user
>programs usually does not work (see question 3.5). glibc
>provides its own <net/*> and <scsi/*> header files to replace
>them, and you may have to remove any symlink that you have in
>place before you install glibc. However, /usr/include/asm and
>/usr/include/linux should remain as they were.
>
>Keith, are you saying that glibc is wrong?

Not me, Linus says that glibc is wrong.

  "I've asked glibc maintainers to stop the symlink insanity for the
  last few years now, but it doesn't seem to happen.

  Basically, that symlink should not be a symlink.  It's a symlink for
  historical reasons, none of them very good any more (and haven't been
  for a long time), and it's a disaster unless you want to be a C
  library developer.  Which not very many people want to be.

  The fact is, that the header files should match the library you link
  against, not the kernel you run on."

http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu/2000-month-07/msg04096.html
for the rest of Linus's reasons.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-02-03  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-03  2:49 Fix for include/linux/fs.h in 2.4.0 kernels Frédéric L. W. Meunier
2001-02-03  3:03 ` Brian May
2001-02-03  3:10 ` Keith Owens [this message]
2001-02-03  4:21   ` Brian May
2001-02-03  4:39     ` Brian Wellington
2001-02-03  4:41       ` Brian May
2001-02-03  8:48   ` Graham Murray
2001-02-03  8:59     ` Keith Owens
2001-02-03 10:09       ` Graham Murray
2001-02-03 11:38         ` Keith Owens
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-02-02 23:04 Jocelyn Mayer
2001-02-02 23:25 ` Keith Owens
2001-02-03  7:42   ` Alan Cox

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