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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Hitoshi Mitake <mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp>
Cc: fweisbec@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	h.mitake@gmail.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/11] lock monitor: Separate features related to lock
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:13:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1268590435.9440.8.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1268563128-6486-1-git-send-email-mitake@dcl.info.waseda.ac.jp>

On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 19:38 +0900, Hitoshi Mitake wrote:
> Current lockdep is too complicated because,
>  * dependency validation
>  * statistics
>  * event tracing
> are all implemented by it.
> This cause problem of overhead.
> If user enables one of them, overhead of rests part is not avoidable.
> (tracing is exception. If user enables validation or stat,
> overhead of tracing doesn't occur.)
> 
> So I suggest new subsystem "lock monitor".
> This is a general purpose lock event hooking mechanism.
> 
> lock monitor will be enable easy implementing and running
> these features related to lock.
> 
> And I'm hoping that lock monitor will reduce overhead of perf lock.
> Because lock monitor separates dependency validation and event tracing clearly,
> so calling of functions of lockdep (e.g. lock_acquire()) only for validation
> will not occur lock events.
> 
> I implemented it on the branch perf/inject of Frederic's random-tracing tree.
> Because the branch is hottest place of lock and tracing :)

OK, so I really don't like this much..

Building a lockstat kernel (PROVE_LOCKING=n) should not have much more
overhead than the proposed solution, if the simple lock acquistion
tracking bothers you, you can do a patch to weaken that.

I really really dislike how you add a monitor variable between
everything for no reason what so ever.

You use a new rwlock_t, which is an instant fail, those things are worse
than useless.

You add chained indirect calls into all lock ops, that's got to hurt.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-14 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-14 10:38 [PATCH RFC 00/11] lock monitor: Separate features related to lock Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 01/11] lock monitor: New subsystem for lock event hooking Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 02/11] Adopt lockdep to lock monitor Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 03/11] Adopt spinlock " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 04/11] Adopt rwlock " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 05/11] Adopt arch dependent rwsem " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 06/11] Adopt rwsem of x86 " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 07/11] Adopt the way of initializing semaphore " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 08/11] Adopt mutex " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 09/11] Adopt rcu_read_lock() " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 10/11] Adopt kernel/sched.c " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 10:38 ` [PATCH RFC 11/11] Very dirty temporal solution for testing " Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-14 18:13 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-03-17  1:32   ` [PATCH RFC 00/11] lock monitor: Separate features related to lock Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-17  7:30     ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-17 15:39       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-18  5:49         ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-18 20:30           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-20  5:51             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-23 15:45         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-17  9:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-17 13:59       ` Jason Baron
2010-03-18  5:59       ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-18 21:16         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-19  1:08           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19  1:23             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-19  1:36               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19  2:27                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-19  2:40                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19  3:06                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-19 12:56                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-03-19 16:00                         ` Jason Baron
2010-03-20  4:51                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-20  4:46                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-20  5:56           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-20  8:23             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-21  9:49               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-23 15:32               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-04  7:56                 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-17  1:47 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-17  7:33   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2010-03-17  9:50     ` Ingo Molnar

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