From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Joel Becker <Joel.Becker@oracle.com>
Cc: Yury Polyanskiy <ypolyans@princeton.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Jan Glauber <jan.glauber@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hangcheck-timer is broken on x86
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:00:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1269824436.1880.2.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100326214648.GF9984@mail.oracle.com>
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 14:46 -0700, Joel Becker wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:36:11PM -0400, Yury Polyanskiy wrote:
> > Second, and more importantly, loops_per_jiffy has little to do with the conversion from the
> > the time scale of get_cycles() (aka rdtsc) to the time scale of jiffies.
>
> It used to! Fundamentally, of course, we didn't have a
> monotonic clock everywhere that satisfied hangcheck-timer's needs. So
> we had to use different approaches on different architectures.
>
> > @@ -130,7 +129,9 @@ extern unsigned long long monotonic_clock(void);
> > #else
> > static inline unsigned long long monotonic_clock(void)
> > {
> > - return get_cycles();
> > + struct timespec ts;
> > + getrawmonotonic(&ts);
> > + return timespec_to_ns(&ts);
> > }
> > #endif /* HAVE_MONOTONIC */
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Does getrawmonotonic() satisfy hangcheck-timer? What I mean is, will
> it always return the wallclock nanoseconds even in the face of CPU speed
> changes, suspend, udelay, or any other suspension of kernel operation?
> Yes, I know this is a tougher standard than rdtsc(), but this is what
> hangcheck-timer wants. rdtsc() at least satisfied udelay and PCI hangs.
getrawmonotonic() can be stalled and will wrap on some hardware (acpi pm
timer wraps every 5 seconds).
I think the read_persistent_clock() is really what you want to use here.
On arches that do not support it, it returns 0 every time.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-29 1:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-24 3:36 [PATCH] hangcheck-timer is broken on x86 Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-26 21:24 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-26 21:52 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-26 21:46 ` Joel Becker
2010-03-26 22:00 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-27 0:57 ` Joel Becker
2010-03-27 2:02 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-27 22:03 ` Joel Becker
2010-03-27 22:51 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-27 23:36 ` Joel Becker
2010-03-28 2:08 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-29 1:00 ` john stultz [this message]
2010-03-29 14:11 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-29 16:43 ` john stultz
2010-03-29 17:04 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-29 18:44 ` john stultz
2010-03-29 19:53 ` Joel Becker
2010-03-29 21:08 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-03-29 21:43 ` john stultz
2010-03-29 22:34 ` Yury Polyanskiy
2010-04-08 0:52 ` Joel Becker
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