From: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>
To: Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>
Cc: tek-life <teklife.kernel@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: Can we remove the Zone_DMA?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:04:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1271588670.1389.5.camel@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004040107.15783.dhazelton@enter.net>
On Son, 2010-04-04 at 01:07 -0400, Daniel Hazelton wrote:
> On Sunday 04 April 2010 12:21:54 am tek-life wrote:
> > I’m a newbie on the linux kernel. Now I am reading the source code of
> > Linux . I have a question in the following about ZONE_DMA.
> >
> > In Linux , The Memory is divided to three zone. They are ZONE_DMA
> > 、ZONE_NORMAL and ZONE_HIGHMEM. From the book of "Undstand the Linux
> > kernel ", the ZONE_DMA has the effect that the Direct Memory Access
> > (DMA) processors for old ISA buses have a strong limitation: they are
> > able to address only the first 16 MB of RAM. SO ,we must set a zone
> > for the DMA on ISA bus. And I suspect that the hardware has
> > developed so quickly .And in this days the ISA has been weeded out.
That doesn't imply that the "old" systems and hardware vanishes (even
not quickly).
> > And so ,if we not defined the ZONE_DMA, is the system be effected? And
> > why not remove ZONE_DMA from the kernel . If it cann‘t to do so,the
> > compatibility is the only reason?
>
> While ISA is gone as a true peripheral interconnect for new systems it does,
> actually, still live on in a lot of systems that Linux still supports. While
> those systems, generally, are running the same kernel and userspace they were
> a decade ago I have no doubt that somebody might find an old machine and put
> Linux on it - just because they could.
>
> And that also discounts the non-IBM PC machines that are out there that Linux
> also supports. While I don't know enough about them to say for sure, I am
> quite certain that at least some of them are still using the ISA bus.
PC-104 has an ISA bus. And it is far from dead and currently deployed
for new systems.
Bernd
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-04 4:21 Can we remove the Zone_DMA? tek-life
2010-04-04 5:07 ` Daniel Hazelton
[not found] ` <k2tc58e39921004032226ze2eb64dev21f8c2d137a49ebc@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-04 5:33 ` Fwd: " tek-life
2010-04-04 7:49 ` Daniel Hazelton
2010-04-04 8:16 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2010-04-04 8:28 ` tek-life
2010-04-04 8:28 ` tek-life
2010-04-04 8:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-04-12 8:41 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-18 11:04 ` Bernd Petrovitsch [this message]
2010-04-19 13:44 ` Lennart Sorensen
2010-04-04 7:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-04-04 9:07 ` Joerg Roedel
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