From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757021Ab0ECVCo (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 May 2010 17:02:44 -0400 Received: from e7.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.137]:37312 "EHLO e7.ny.us.ibm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756952Ab0ECVCj (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 May 2010 17:02:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH v21 001/100] eclone (1/11): Factor out code to allocate pidmap page From: Dave Hansen To: David Miller Cc: orenl@cs.columbia.edu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, serue@us.ibm.com, matthltc@us.ibm.com, xemul@openvz.org, sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org In-Reply-To: <20100501.151022.190375136.davem@davemloft.net> References: <1272723382-19470-1-git-send-email-orenl@cs.columbia.edu> <1272723382-19470-2-git-send-email-orenl@cs.columbia.edu> <20100501.151022.190375136.davem@davemloft.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 14:02:31 -0700 Message-Id: <1272920551.12034.4729.camel@nimitz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 15:10 -0700, David Miller wrote: > NO WAY, there is no way in the world you should post 100 patches > at a time to any mailing list, especially those at vger.kernel.org > that have thousands upon thousands of subscribers. > > Post only small, well contained, sets of patches at a time. At most > 10 or so in one go. Hi Dave, I really do apologize if these caused undue traffic on vger. It certainly wasn't our intention to cause any problems. We've had a fear all along that we'll just go back into our little containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, and go astray of what the community wants done with these patches. It's also important to remember that these really do affect the entire kernel. Unfortunately, it's not really a single feature or something that fits well on any other mailing list. It has implications _everywhere_. I think Andrew Morton also asked that these continue coming to LKML, although his request probably came at a time when the set was a wee bit smaller. > Do you realize how much mail traffic you generate by posting so many > patches at one time, and how unlikely it is for anyone to actually > sift through and review your patches after you've spammed them by > posting so many at one time? I honestly don't expect people to be reading the whole thing at once. But, I do hope that people can take a look at their individual bits that are touched. > A second infraction and I will have no choice but to block you at the > SMTP level at vger.kernel.org so please do not do it again. I know these patches are certainly not at the level of importance as, say the pata or -stable updates, but they're certainly not of unprecedented scale. I've seen a number of patchbombs of this size recently. I hope Andrew pulls this set into -mm so this doesn't even come up again. But, if it does, can you make some suggestions on how to be more kind to vger in the process? -- Dave