From: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"eranian@gmail.com" <eranian@gmail.com>,
"Gary.Mohr@Bull.com" <Gary.Mohr@bull.com>,
Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"arjan@linux.intel.com" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf: export registerred pmus via sysfs
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 10:43:52 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1273545832.30322.4.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1273490824.5605.3379.camel@twins>
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 19:27 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 18:26 +0800, Lin Ming wrote:
>
> > > No, I'm assuming there is only 1 PMU per CPU. Corey is the expert on
> > > crazy hardware though, but I think the sanest way is to extend the CPU
> > > topology if there's more structure to it.
> >
> > But our goal is to support multiple pmus, don't we need to assume there
> > are more than 1 PMU per CPU?
>
> No, because as I said, then its ambiguous what pmu you want. If you have
> that, you need to extend your topology information.
>
> Anyway, I talked with Ingo on this and he'd like to see this somewhat
> extended.
>
> Instead of a pmu_id field, which we pass into a new
> perf_event_attr::pmu_id field, how about creating an event_source sysfs
> class. Then each class can have an event_source_id and a hierarchy of
> 'generic' events.
>
> We'd start using the PERF_TYPE_ space for this and express the
> PERF_COUNT_ space in the event attributes found inside that class.
>
> That way we can include all the existing event enumerations into this as
> well.
>
> This way we can create:
>
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/cpu_hardware_events
> cpu_hardware_events/event_source_id
> cpu_hardware_events/cpu_cycles
> cpu_hardware_events/instructions
> /...
>
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/cpu_raw_events
> cpu_raw_events/event_source_id
>
>
> These would match the current PERF_TYPE_* values for compatibility
>
> For new PMUs we can start a dynamic range of PERF_TYPE_ (say at 64k but
> that's not ABI and can be changed at any time, we've got u32 to play
> with).
>
> For uncore this would result in:
>
> /sys/devices/system/node/nodeN/node_raw_events
> node_raw_events/event_source_id
>
> and maybe:
>
> /sys/devices/system/node/nodeN/node_events
> node_events/event_source_id
> node_events/local_misses
> /local_hits
> /remote_misses
> /remote_hits
> /...
>
>
> The software events and tracepoints and kprobes stuff we could hang off
> of /sys/kernel/ or something
>
> So your registration would indeed look like something:
>
> perf_event_register_pmu(struct pmu *pmu, int type),
>
> where type would normally be -1 (dynamic) but would be PERF_TYPE_ for
> those already laid down in ABI.
>
> This approach will also give us a good overview
> in /sys/class/event_source/, which will be a flat listing of all
> existing event sources.
>
> Does this make sense?
Thanks for the idea.
Give me some time to get a clear understanding of the ideas from you and
others.
And then I'll work out a patch as soon as possible.
Lin Ming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-11 2:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-10 9:27 [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf: export registerred pmus via sysfs Lin Ming
2010-05-10 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 10:11 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 10:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 10:26 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 10:35 ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-10 10:58 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:11 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 11:18 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-10 11:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-10 11:39 ` Russell King
2010-05-10 11:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 20:25 ` Will Deacon
2010-05-11 6:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-10 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 11:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-10 23:13 ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-11 6:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-11 8:20 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 9:03 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11 9:05 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-11 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-11 10:28 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-13 8:28 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-13 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-13 9:22 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11 9:40 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11 9:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 9:53 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-11 15:17 ` Greg KH
2010-05-12 5:51 ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-12 8:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-14 7:04 ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-11 10:09 ` stephane eranian
2010-05-11 14:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-11 14:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 15:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-05-11 15:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-10 23:54 ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-11 6:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-11 2:43 ` Lin Ming [this message]
2010-05-11 6:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
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