From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759197Ab0EMS0U (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 May 2010 14:26:20 -0400 Received: from fifo99.com ([67.223.236.141]:55584 "EHLO fifo99.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759161Ab0EMS0N (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 May 2010 14:26:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6) From: Daniel Walker To: Brian Swetland Cc: Matthew Garrett , Paul Walmsley , Arve =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo , Oleg Nesterov , Tony Lindgren , Kevin Hilman , Alan Stern , magnus.damm@gmail.com, "Theodore Ts'o" , mark gross , Arjan van de Ven , Geoff Smith , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Cousson , linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Vitaly Wool , Linus Walleij , Mark Brown , Liam Girdwood In-Reply-To: References: <1272667021-21312-1-git-send-email-arve@android.com> <20100513121745.GA10749@srcf.ucam.org> <1273771990.19100.13.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:25:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1273775157.19100.20.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 11:17 -0700, Brian Swetland wrote: > > I'm not sure this necessitates using only debugfs for the userspace > interface. A userspace interface is necessary to accomplish what > we're trying to do here, otherwise we have only half a solution, and > our hope is that it'd be a stable interface (as userspace interfaces > are supposed to be) for as long as its needed. I could totally > imagine the userspace interface eventually becoming a no-op or > punching through to some other facility, depending on how this problem > is solved long-term in the ideal post-suspend-block future. The problem is that once this userspace interface is exposed, it's nearly permanent and has to be support for a long long time .. It might seen trivial to just remove something your not using, but we never know who is using what once the kernel is released. Daniel