From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932561Ab0EMTgs (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 May 2010 15:36:48 -0400 Received: from fifo99.com ([67.223.236.141]:45672 "EHLO fifo99.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932238Ab0EMTgr (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 May 2010 15:36:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6) From: Daniel Walker To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Brian Swetland , Paul Walmsley , Arve =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo , Oleg Nesterov , Tony Lindgren , Kevin Hilman , Alan Stern , magnus.damm@gmail.com, "Theodore Ts'o" , mark gross , Arjan van de Ven , Geoff Smith , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Cousson , linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Vitaly Wool , Linus Walleij , Mark Brown , Liam Girdwood In-Reply-To: <20100513191142.GA18886@srcf.ucam.org> References: <1272667021-21312-1-git-send-email-arve@android.com> <20100513121745.GA10749@srcf.ucam.org> <1273771990.19100.13.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> <1273775157.19100.20.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> <20100513183646.GA18155@srcf.ucam.org> <1273777177.19100.24.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> <20100513191142.GA18886@srcf.ucam.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:36:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1273779394.19100.47.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 20:11 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:59:37AM -0700, Daniel Walker wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 19:36 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > Deprecating sysfs interfaces can be done within 6 months or so, > > > especially if there's only one real consumer. > > > > I'll assume your right (can you give an example of this?), but why > > should we even add it if we know it's already going to get replaced. > > It's like it's pre-deprecated .. > > See feature-removal-schedule.txt. So far we have no indication that it's > going to be replaced, because nobody has actually suggested a working > way to do this better. If we had a concrete implementation proposal for > that then we'd be in a pretty different position right now. Ok, feature-removal-schedule.txt applies to everything tho. What your saying is that if this interface only last a short time it might take 6 months, if it last for a long time it would take longer. There's no easy way to know that Google is the only user after some amount of time passes. Daniel