From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: commit e9e9250b: sync wakeup bustage when waker is an RT task
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:04:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1274087070.17267.37.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1274086140.5605.3719.camel@twins>
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 10:49 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 06:38 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > What would be the harm/consequence of restoring RT tasks to rq->load so
> > the wake_affine()::sync logic just worked as before without hackery?
>
> Well, you'd have to constantly adjust the task weight of RT tasks to
> reflect their actual consumption. Not really feasible.
Egad, forget that.
> So the proportional stuff works like:
>
> slice_i = w_i / (\Sum_j w_j) * dt
>
> Giving a RT task a sensible weight we'd have to reverse that:
>
> w_i = slice_i/dt * (\Sum_j w_j)
>
> which is something that depends on the rq->load, so every time you
> change the rq->load you'd have to recompute the weight of all the RT
> tasks, which again changes the rq->load (got a head-ache already? :-)
Yup.
> > The weight is a more or less random number, but looking around, with
> > them excluded, avg_load_per_task is lowered when RT tasks enter the
> > system, and rq->load[] misses their weight. (Dunno what effect it has
> > on tg shares).
>
> Well, those things are more or less a 'good' thing, it makes it purely
> about sched_fair.
(Yeah, I was pondering up/down sides)
> So the thing to do I think is to teach wake_affine about cpu_power,
> because that is what includes the RT tasks.
>
> The proper comparison of rq weights (like the regular load balancer
> already does) is:
>
> A->load / A->cpu_power ~ B->load / B->cpu_power
>
> The lower the cpu_power of a particular cpu, the less processing
> capacity it has, the smaller its share of the total weight should be to
> provide equal work for each task.
Hm, sounds kinda heavy/complicated for fast-path. I think I like little
hack better than trying to teach it about cpu_power :)
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-17 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-15 11:57 commit e9e9250b: sync wakeup bustage when waker is an RT task Mike Galbraith
2010-05-15 12:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-15 17:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-05-15 17:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-05-16 7:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-05-17 4:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-05-17 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-17 8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-17 9:04 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2010-05-31 11:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-31 13:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-05-31 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-31 18:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-06-01 6:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-06-01 9:12 ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix wake_affine() vs RT tasks tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
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