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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] perf: introduce raw_type attribute to specify the  type of a raw sample
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:23:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1274347413.5605.13636.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiniEWKJIrbTSZQ0jBXps75WVQbvGSXVyUVttJ7P@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 10:10 +0200, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> I still don't understand why you need all of this to encode IBS.
> I still believe that with attr.config there is plenty of bits to choose
> from. I do understand the need for PERF_SAMPLE_RAW. I think
> there is no other way.
> 
> You simply need to pick an encoding to mark the config as IBS. You
> need two bits for this: 00 regular counters, 01 IBS Fetch, 10 IBS op.
> Regular counters use 43 bits, IBS fetch uses 58, IBS op uses 52.
> So you could use bits 62-63 for instance. You don't need to encode
> the sampling period in attr.config for either IBS. You can use
> attr.sample_period, so you free up 16 bits.
> 
> I understand that IBS may evolve and thus may use more bits. But
> you still have at least 16 bits of margin.
> 
> Users and tools would rely on an library to provide the event encoding.
> No need to come up with some raw hex number on the cmdline. 

No need for any of that afaict, how about:

For Instruction-Fetch:

  0:15 sample-period (r/w)
 16:31 cnt           (r/w)
 32:47 latency       (r/w)
    48 enable        (r/w)
    49 valid         (r/w)
 50:56               (ro)
    57 randomized    (r/w)


For Instruction-Execution:

  0:15 sample-period (r/w)
    17 enable        (r/w)
    18 valid         (r/w)

So if we add perf_event_attr::latency (can also be used for
PEBS-load-latency, can Sparc/PowerPC/ARM/SH use this too?), we can
encode these IBS things as:

  0x87 Instruction Fetch Stall -- Ins-Fetch 
  0xC0 Retired Instructions    -- Ins-Exec
  
When we set perf_event_attr::precise > 0

The Ins-Exec will have to re-construct the actual event->count by adding
sample-period on each interrupt, as it seems we lack an actual counter
in hardware.

Furthermore, these counters will have to deal with sample-period > 2^16
by 'ignoring' interrupts until we get ->period_left down to 0.

The extra data could possibly be exposed through attaching non-sampling
group events and using SAMPLE_READ, like L1-misses, although
reconstructing the count from just one bit seems 'interesting'. 

The IbsFetchLinAd/IbsOpRip would go straight into PERF_SAMPLE_IP by
replacing pt_regs->ip I guess.

IbsDcLinAd goes into PERF_SAMPLE_ADDR


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-20  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19 21:20 [PATCH 0/7] perf: implement AMD IBS (v2) Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 1/7] perf: introduce raw_type attribute to specify the type of a raw sample Robert Richter
2010-05-19 22:02   ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-20  6:51     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 23:06       ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 22:46     ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20  8:10   ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20  9:23     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-05-20  9:42       ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 10:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 12:13           ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 15:22             ` Robert Richter
2012-11-23 12:00               ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 14:08           ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 16:55             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 17:07               ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 17:16                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 13:58       ` Robert Richter
2010-05-20 14:14         ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 14:30           ` Stephane Eranian
2010-05-20 15:48           ` Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 2/7] perf, x86: introduce bit range for special pmu events Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 3/7] perf, x86: modify some code to allow the introduction of ibs events Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 4/7] perf, x86: implement IBS feature detection Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 5/7] perf, x86: setup NMI handler for IBS Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 6/7] perf, x86: implement AMD IBS event configuration Robert Richter
2010-05-19 21:20 ` [PATCH 7/7] perf, x86: implement the ibs interrupt handler Robert Richter

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