From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
"eranian@gmail.com" <eranian@gmail.com>,
"Gary.Mohr@Bull.com" <Gary.Mohr@bull.com>,
"arjan@linux.intel.com" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@us.ibm.com>, Carl Love <carll@us.ibm.com>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] perf: core, export pmus via sysfs
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 21:52:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1274385152.1674.1636.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100520184213.GB21030@kroah.com>
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:42 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 09:14:36AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Since the CPU and memory controllers are (assumed) symmetric on the
> > system, we get to add things like:
> >
> >
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu_event_source/
>
> Wouldn't that really be:
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpu_event_source/
> ?
>
> /sys/devices/system/cpu is a "type" of devices in the system here, and
> isn't an event source specific to the device itself?
>
> Or is it for all cpus together?
All CPUs are assumed identical, and the perf syscall has task/cpu
monitor targets. If the CPUs would not be identical (like Paul Mundt
said SH might do) then it would make sense to have different
event_sources for each cpu.
> > I'm not sure where we'd want them to live, we could add them to:
> >
> > /sys/kernel/tracepoint_event_source/
> >
> > and have them live there, but I'm open to alternatives :-)
>
> Once you go outside of /sys/devices/ you aren't playing with devices
> properly, so you might just want to stick to a "class" and have
> /sys/class/tracepoint_event_source/ where all of the devices would end
> up symlinking to.
Sure, that would work.
> > [ With event_source's being a sysfs-class, we also get a nice flat
> > collection in /sys/class/event_source/ helping those who get lost
> > in the device topology, me :-) ]
>
> Yes, but isn't the fact that you can have different types of
> event sources lend itself to different classes of event sources?
I'm not quite sure adding another abstraction level buys us much.
> > fd = open("/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu_event_source/instructions/config");
> > attr->type = fd | PERF_TYPE_FD;
> > event_fd = perf_event_open(attr, ... );
> > close(fd);
> >
> > From that one fd we can find to which 'event_source' it belongs and what
> > particular config we need to use.
>
> Ah, pass the fd of a sysfs file to sysfs to get the kobject. Ick,
> that's just, well, something that I never even considered someone would
> need/want to do...
No, we don't pass the fd to sysfs, we pass the fd into a syscall.
> sysfs exports single values just fine. If you are starting to do more
> complex things, like you currently are, maybe you shouldn't be in
> sysfs...
Well, like said, I'm fine with it actually being single values, its just
that Ingo suggested skipping a few syscalls.
Robert just suggested we could use the sysfs files as device nodes and
have then open() return a perf_event fd. Its just that that would
require we add a ioctl to change the perf_event_attr structure and
attach it to a context.
> I can always knock up a eventfs for you do mount at /sys/kernel/events/
> or something if you want :)
But that won't get us the nice device linkage, right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-20 19:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 1:46 [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] perf: core, export pmus via sysfs Lin Ming
2010-05-18 20:05 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 2:34 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19 2:48 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 3:40 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19 5:00 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 6:32 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 18:42 ` Greg KH
2010-05-20 19:52 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-05-20 20:19 ` Greg KH
2010-05-20 20:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 23:12 ` Greg KH
2010-05-21 8:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-21 9:40 ` [rfc] Describe events in a structured way " Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <AANLkTinJeYJtCg2aRWhHTcf5E2-dN2-oAfEJ8tAtFjb9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-01 2:34 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-08 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <AANLkTimf1Z0N9cv2Pu2qTTUscn4utC37zOPelCbqQoPv@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-21 8:55 ` Lin Ming
[not found] ` <1277112858.3618.16.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>
[not found] ` <1277187920.4467.3.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com>
[not found] ` <1277189971.3637.5.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>
2010-06-22 7:22 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22 7:33 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22 7:39 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22 8:04 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22 8:16 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22 7:47 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22 7:52 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-24 9:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-24 16:14 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-24 17:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-29 6:15 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-29 8:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-29 9:20 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-29 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-02 8:06 ` Lin Ming
2010-07-03 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-17 0:20 ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 5:48 ` Lin Ming
2010-07-20 15:19 ` Robert Richter
2010-07-20 17:50 ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 18:30 ` Robert Richter
2010-07-20 21:18 ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 17:43 ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-19 7:06 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] perf: core, export pmus " Borislav Petkov
2010-05-19 7:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-19 7:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 20:07 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 2:37 ` Lin Ming
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