From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932358Ab0EYJ2Y (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 May 2010 05:28:24 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:54812 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756360Ab0EYJ2X convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 May 2010 05:28:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] V4: rwsem changes + down_read_critical() proposal From: Peter Zijlstra To: Michel Lespinasse Cc: Linus Torvalds , David Howells , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , LKML , Andrew Morton , Mike Waychison , Suleiman Souhlal , Ying Han In-Reply-To: References: <1274733081-4623-1-git-send-email-walken@google.com> <1274777239.5882.581.camel@twins> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:27:55 +0200 Message-ID: <1274779675.5882.684.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 02:12 -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > So what happened to those patches that dropped mmap_sem during I/O? > > Yes, we do have patches trying to release the mmap_sem when a page > fault for a file backed VMA blocks on accessing the corresponding > file. We have not given up on these, and we intend to try submitting > them again. However, these patches do *not* address the case of a page > fault blocking while trying to get a free page (i.e. when you get > under high memory pressure). But I guess they could, right? Simply make the allocation under mmap_sem be __GFP_HARDWALL|__GFP_HIGHMEM|__GFP_MOVABLE__GFP_NOWARN or (GFP_HUGHUSER_MOVABLE & ~(__GFP_WAIT|__GFP_IO|__GFP_FS))|__GFP_NOWARN and drop the mmap_sem when that fails. > > I really don't like people tinkering with the lock implementations like > > this. Nor do I like the naming, stats are in no way _critical_. > > Critical here refers to the fact that you're not allowed to block > while holding the unfairly acquired rwsem. We usually call that atomic, your 0/n patch didn't explain any of that. Also, do you really think doing something like: /* * Check the vma index is within the range and do * sequential scan until m_index. */ vma = NULL; if ((unsigned long)l < mm->map_count) { vma = mm->mmap; while (l-- && vma) vma = vma->vm_next; goto out; } with preemption disabled is a _good_ thing? People were talking about raising our vma limit of 64k...