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On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 23:44 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> No, I don't really think it's going to be a small change.  The problem is that
> for the Android people changing user space is very hard, so I don't think
> this realy is an option, given that they would have to implement it themselves,
> test it, validate it on multiple different hardware platforms etc. and _then_
> resubmit the feature without any guarantee that it will be merged. 

So your position is basically that we're going to merge this stuff
because google doesn't want to expend effort into investigating a
potential saner solution?

So why don't we simply merge all the crap people throw at us and be done
with it.