From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933631Ab0EZInl (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 May 2010 04:43:41 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:41764 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932105Ab0EZInj convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 May 2010 04:43:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Opportunistic suspend support. From: Peter Zijlstra To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Dmitry Torokhov , Alan Stern , Arve =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= , Linux-pm mailing list , Kernel development list , Len Brown , Pavel Machek , Randy Dunlap , Andrew Morton , Andi Kleen , Cornelia Huck , Tejun Heo , Jesse Barnes , Nigel Cunningham , Ming Lei , Wu Fengguang , Maxim Levitsky , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <201005252221.55888.rjw@sisk.pl> References: <201005252147.22358.rjw@sisk.pl> <20100525195300.GA4455@core.coreip.homeip.net> <201005252221.55888.rjw@sisk.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:43:07 +0200 Message-ID: <1274863387.5882.4855.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 22:21 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > Now, we can reject their patches, but that's not going to cause any progress > to happen, realistically. Quite on the contrary, Android will continue to use > wakelocks and Android driver writers will continue to ignore the mainline > and the gap between the two kernel lines will only get wider and wider over > time. > > And what really is the drawback if we merge the patches? Quite frankly, > I don't see any. A funny userspace API of questionable use (esp. with the advent of better hardware and better runtime PM support) which we will have to support forever seems like a big enough downside.