From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754529Ab0EZPpH (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 May 2010 11:45:07 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:52515 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751095Ab0EZPpE (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 May 2010 11:45:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8) From: Peter Zijlstra To: Florian Mickler Cc: Alan Cox , Vitaly Wool , LKML , Paul@smtp1.linux-foundation.org, felipe.balbi@nokia.com, Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linux PM In-Reply-To: <20100526174049.5f803b4a@schatten.dmk.lab> References: <1274482015-30899-1-git-send-email-arve@android.com> <201005242049.18920.rjw@sisk.pl> <87wrusvrqe.fsf@deeprootsystems.com> <201005250138.16293.rjw@sisk.pl> <1274863655.5882.4875.camel@twins> <1274867106.5882.5090.camel@twins> <20100526120242.5c9b73ad@schatten.dmk.lab> <20100526133721.602633b2@schatten.dmk.lab> <20100526142430.327ccbc4@schatten.dmk.lab> <20100526141612.3e2e0443@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100526171106.0e44a736@schatten.dmk.lab> <1274886947.1674.1757.camel@laptop> <20100526174049.5f803b4a@schatten.dmk.lab> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 17:45:00 +0200 Message-ID: <1274888700.1674.1760.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 17:40 +0200, Florian Mickler wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 17:15:47 +0200 > Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 17:11 +0200, Florian Mickler wrote: > > > I'm not saying that your argument is not valid. But why don't you look > > > at suspend blockers as a contract between userspace and kernelspace? An > > > Opt-In to the current guarantees the kernel provides in the non-suspend > > > case. > > > > That's backwards. > > I think that's the point of it. Apparently, and you're not accepting that we're telling you we think its a singularly bad idea. Alan seems to have the skill to clearly explain why, I suggest you re-read his emails again.