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From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 17/17] writeback: lessen sync_supers wakeup count
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:04:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1274976275.15516.79.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100527154435.GS22536@laptop>

On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 01:44 +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > I think this will change the behavior of 'sync_supers()' too much. ATM,
> > it makes only one SB pass, then sleeps, then another one, then sleeps.
> > And we should probably preserve this behavior. So I'd rather make it:
> > 
> > if (supers_dirty)
> > 	bdi_arm_supers_timer();
> > set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> > schedule();
> > 
> > This way we will keep the behavior closer to the original.
> 
> Well your previous code had the same issue (ie. it could loop again
> in sync_supers). But fair point perhaps.

I think no, it either armed the timer of went to sleep, but it does not
matter much :-)

> But we cannot do the above, because again the timer might go off
> before we set current state. We'd lose the wakeup and never wake
> up again.
> 
> Putting it inside set_current_state() should be OK. I suppose.

Oh, right!

> > There is spin_lock(&sb_lock) in sync_supers(), so strictly speak this
> > 'smp_mb()' is not needed if we move supers_dirty = 0 into
> > 'sync_supers()' and add a comment that a mb is required, in case some
> > one modifies the code later?
> > 
> > Or this is not worth it?
> 
> It's a bit tricky. spin_lock only gives an acquire barrier, which
> prevents CPU executing instructions inside the critical section
> before acquiring the lock. It actually allows stores to be deferred
> from becoming visible to other CPUs until inside the critical section.
> So the load of sb->s_dirty could indeed still happen before the
> store is seen.
> 
> Locks do allow you to avoid thinking about barriers, but *only* when
> all memory accesses to all shared variables are inside the locks
> (or when a section has just a single access, which by definition don't
> need ordering with another access).

Oh, ok. I need to read carefully Documentation/memory-barriers.txt.

> > BTW, do you want me to keep you to be the patch author, add your
> > signed-off-by and my original commit message?
> 
> I'm not concerned. You contributed more to the idea+implementation,
> so record yourself as author.

Ok, but thank you a lot for helping!

-- 
Best Regards,
Artem Bityutskiy (Артём Битюцкий)


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-27 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-25 13:48 [PATCHv4 00/17] kill unnecessary SB sync wake-ups Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:48 ` [PATCHv4 01/17] VFS: introduce helpers for the s_dirty flag Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-28 20:23   ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-28 21:14     ` Al Viro
2010-05-28 21:17       ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-29  8:11         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-06-09 15:44         ` tytso
2010-06-09 15:49           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-06-09 16:31           ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 22:33             ` Al Viro
2010-05-29  7:59     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:48 ` [PATCHv4 02/17] AFFS: do not manipulate s_dirt directly Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:48 ` [PATCHv4 03/17] BFS: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:48 ` [PATCHv4 04/17] BTRFS: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 05/17] EXOFS: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-26 15:12   ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 06/17] EXT2: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 07/17] EXT4: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 08/17] FAT: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 09/17] HFS: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 10/17] HFSPLUS: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 11/17] JFFS2: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 12/17] reiserfs: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 13/17] SYSV: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 14/17] UDF: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 14:06   ` Jan Kara
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 15/17] UFS: " Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 16/17] VFS: rename s_dirt to s_dirty Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-25 13:49 ` [PATCHv4 17/17] writeback: lessen sync_supers wakeup count Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-27  6:50   ` Al Viro
2010-05-27  7:22     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27  9:08       ` Al Viro
2010-05-27 10:51       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-27 12:07         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 15:21           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-27 15:44             ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 16:04               ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2010-05-31  8:25               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-31  8:38                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31  9:04                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-31 12:47                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 13:03                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-27 10:19     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-31 14:07     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-06-04  4:26       ` Al Viro
2010-06-04  5:13         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-05-28 20:29   ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-29  8:03     ` Artem Bityutskiy

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