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From: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>
To: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] intel_idle: create a native cpuidle driver for select intel processors
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:09:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1275059380.5612.60.camel@cndougla-ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005272359510.24823@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 00:16 -0400, Len Brown wrote:
> > I see that you have updated this code in your tree to disable C4 and C6
> > on atom. This has piqued my curiosity. I've now seen 2 atom netbooks
> > from different OEMs that hide C4 when you plug the power in. After the
> > first machine I thought, "must be a BIOS/ACPI bug," but now I'm
> > beginning to wonder if there's some issue with atom C4 states? That's
> > beside the fact that I've not seen C6 on either machine at all. Do you
> > have any insight?
> 
> The reasoning behind ACPI taking deep C-states away
> when on AC is the assumption that users on AC
> care more about low latency and high performance
> than they care about power savings, heat, and noise.

Maybe they forgot that a netbook is still a *lap*top when they did this,
cause I can't keep mine on my lap when it's plugged in :). The CPU idles
at 60 centigrade when powered on, and drops to a manageable 30-ish
centigrade when running on battery.

> So my intent is to give Linux control over this decision,
> via PM_QOS or otherwise.  At the moment C4 is commented out
> because when i first tested it failed the lapic timer workaround.

I am looking forward to testing out these changes on my netbook once
this issue get sorted out!

-- Chase


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-28 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-27  2:42 idle-test patches queued for upstream Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42 ` [PATCH 1/8] cpuidle: fail to register if !CONFIG_CPU_IDLE Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 2/8] cpuidle: add cpuidle_unregister_driver() error check Len Brown
2010-05-27  3:14     ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27  5:11       ` [PATCH-v2 " Len Brown
2010-05-27  5:13         ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 3/8] cpuidle: make cpuidle_curr_driver static Len Brown
2010-05-27  5:27     ` [PATCH-v2 " Len Brown
2010-05-27 18:40       ` Luck, Tony
2010-05-27 23:30         ` Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 4/8] ACPI: allow a native cpuidle driver to displace ACPI Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 5/8] sched: clarify commment for TS_POLLING Len Brown
2010-05-27  5:53     ` [PATCH-v2 " Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 6/8] acpi_pad: uses MONITOR/MWAIT, so it doesn't need to clear TS_POLLING Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 7/8] ACPI: acpi_idle: touch TS_POLLING only in the non-MWAIT case Len Brown
2010-05-27  2:42   ` [PATCH 8/8] intel_idle: create a native cpuidle driver for select intel processors Len Brown
2010-05-27  3:44     ` Andrew Morton
2010-05-28  3:57       ` Len Brown
2010-05-30  9:20         ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-27  8:53     ` [linux-pm] " Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28  1:44       ` Len Brown
2010-05-28  7:46         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28 17:38           ` Len Brown
2010-05-29  4:17         ` Thomas Renninger
2010-05-27 14:14     ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-27 14:22       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-27 14:36         ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-28  0:22           ` Len Brown
2010-05-28 17:28             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-27 14:51         ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2010-05-28  3:14           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-28 17:27             ` Kevin Hilman
2010-05-29  0:38               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-28  2:32     ` Chase Douglas
2010-05-28  4:16       ` Len Brown
2010-05-28 15:09         ` Chase Douglas [this message]
2010-05-28 17:43           ` Len Brown
2010-05-28 19:51             ` Chase Douglas
2010-05-28 20:14               ` Chase Douglas
2010-05-27  5:25   ` (No subject header) Milton Miller
2010-05-27  5:47     ` Len Brown
2010-05-27  8:45 ` [linux-pm] idle-test patches queued for upstream Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28  0:59   ` Len Brown
2010-05-28  8:07     ` Thomas Renninger
2010-05-28 17:42       ` Len Brown
2010-06-16  7:53     ` Pavel Machek

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