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From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 9/9] make kvm mmu shrinker more aggressive
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:49:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1276876156.6437.23323.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1276701911.6437.16973.camel@nimitz>

On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 08:25 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 12:24 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > On 06/15/2010 04:55 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > In a previous patch, we removed the 'nr_to_scan' tracking.
> > > It was not being used to track the number of objects
> > > scanned, so we stopped using it entirely.  Here, we
> > > strart using it again.
> > >
> > > The theory here is simple; if we already have the refcount
> > > and the kvm->mmu_lock, then we should do as much work as
> > > possible under the lock.  The downside is that we're less
> > > fair about the KVM instances from which we reclaim.  Each
> > > call to mmu_shrink() will tend to "pick on" one instance,
> > > after which it gets moved to the end of the list and left
> > > alone for a while.
> > >    
> > 
> > That also increases the latency hit, as well as a potential fault storm, 
> > on that instance.  Spreading out is less efficient, but smoother.
> 
> This is probably something that we need to go back and actually measure.
> My suspicion is that, when memory fills up and this shrinker is getting
> called a lot, it will be naturally fair.  That list gets shuffled around
> enough, and mmu_shrink() called often enough that no VMs get picked on
> too unfairly.
> 
> I'll go back and see if I can quantify this a bit, though.

The shrink _query_ (mmu_shrink() with nr_to_scan=0) code is called
really, really often.  Like 5,000-10,000 times a second during lots of
VM pressure.  But, it's almost never called on to actually shrink
anything.

Over the 20 minutes or so that I tested, I saw about 700k calls to
mmu_shrink().  But, only 6 (yes, six) calls that had a non-zero
nr_to_scan.  I'm not sure whether this is because of the .seeks argument
to the shrinker or what, but the slab code stays far, far away from
making mmu_shrink() do much real work.

That changes a few things.  I bet all the contention we were seeing was
just from nr_to_scan=0 calls and not from actual shrink operations.
Perhaps we should just stop this set after patch 4.

Any thoughts?

-- Dave


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-18 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-15 13:55 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] rework KVM mmu_shrink() code Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] abstract kvm x86 mmu->n_free_mmu_pages Dave Hansen
2010-06-16  8:40   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] rename x86 kvm->arch.n_alloc_mmu_pages Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] replace x86 kvm n_free_mmu_pages with n_used_mmu_pages Dave Hansen
2010-06-16 14:25   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-06-16 15:42     ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] create aggregate kvm_total_used_mmu_pages value Dave Hansen
2010-06-16  8:48   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 15:06     ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-17  8:43       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 16:55     ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-17  8:23       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] break out some mmu_skrink() code Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] remove kvm_freed variable Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] make kvm_get_kvm() more robust Dave Hansen
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] reduce kvm_lock hold times in mmu_skrink() Dave Hansen
2010-06-16  8:54   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-15 13:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] make kvm mmu shrinker more aggressive Dave Hansen
2010-06-16  9:24   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 15:25     ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-17  8:37       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-18 15:49       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2010-06-20  8:11         ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 16:32           ` Dave Hansen
2010-07-22  4:36             ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-22  5:36               ` Dave Hansen
2010-07-22  5:42                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-16  8:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] rework KVM mmu_shrink() code Avi Kivity
2010-06-16 15:03   ` Dave Hansen
2010-06-17  8:40     ` Avi Kivity

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