From: Luca Abeni <lucabe72@email.it>
To: Raistlin <raistlin@linux.it>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Song Yuan <song.yuan@ericsson.com>,
Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Nicola Manica <nicola.manica@disi.unitn.it>,
Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>,
Harald Gustafsson <harald.gustafsson@ericsson.com>,
Bjoern Brandenburg <bbb@email.unc.edu>,
bastoni@cs.unc.edu, Giuseppe Lipari <lipari@retis.sssup.it>
Subject: Re: periods and deadlines in SCHED_DEADLINE
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:09:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1278745761.5248.15.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278682707.6083.227.camel@Palantir>
Hi all,
first of all, thanks for including me in these emails, and sorry for the
delay...
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 15:38 +0200, Raistlin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So, talking to Peter and Thomas at the OSPERT workshop in Brussels [1],
> the so called "sporaidic task model" came out many many times!
I assume here you are simply talking about tasks with relative deadline
different from period, right? (the term "sporadic" is more often
associated with non-periodic activation patterns).
[...]
> - do you think it could be useful to have a different syscall to deal
> with the period parameter (if it's different from deadline), e.g.,
> something useful to make the task periodic as you have (if I remember
> well) in Xenomai or RTAI?
Maybe I am confused because I missed the initial part of the discussion,
but here I think there is the risk to mix two different concepts: the
"reservation period" (that is, the period P used to postpone the
scheduling deadline when the budget arrives to 0), and the "task
period" (which has to do with the periodicity of tasks activations). For
implementing a periodic behaviour in the task (this is, AFAIK, what RTAI
similar API provide), no new syscall is needed: clock_nanosleep() is
enough. See http://www.disi.unitn.it/~abeni/RTOS/rtapi.pdf for a
(stupid) example.
The reservation period, on the other hand, is a scheduling parameter,
and I think that setting it with extended versions of sched_setparam(),
sched_setscheduler() and similar is ok.
> If you think it's worth doing that, do you think the
> task_wait_interval() syscall that we already added could/should do
> the job?
I do not remember what task_wait_interval() does :)
Is it the syscall you added to indicate the end of a job?
> Basically, from the scheduling point of view, what it could happen is
> that I'm still _NOT_ going to allow a task with runtime Q_i, deadline
> D_i and period P_i to use more bandwidth than Q_i/P_i, I'm still using D
> for scheduling but the passing of the simple in-kernel admission test
> Sum_i(Q_i/P_i)<1 won't guarantee that the task will always finish its
> jobs before D.
I think if you want a different P_i and D_i you can use D_i for
generating new scheduling deadlines on task arrivals as "d = t + D_i",
and P_i to postpone the scheduling deadlines as "d = d + T_i" when the
budget is 0.
Depending on the replenishment amount you use, you might need to modify
the admission test as "Sum_i(Q_i/min{P_i,D_i}) < 1" or not (if you
always replenish to Q_i, then you need a modified admission test;
otherwise, you can compute the replenishment amount so that the
admission test is unaffected).
Thanks,
Luca
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-10 7:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-09 13:38 periods and deadlines in SCHED_DEADLINE Raistlin
2010-07-09 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-09 14:51 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 16:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 9:01 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 14:49 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 6:42 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 3:52 ` Andrea Bastoni
2010-08-04 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 5:18 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 9:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 3:53 ` Andrea Bastoni
2010-08-04 5:02 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-10 7:08 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 6:46 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-03 11:42 ` Gregory Haskins
2010-08-04 6:30 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 7:11 ` Luca Abeni
2010-07-10 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-11 6:12 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 9:14 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 17:19 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-10 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 20:08 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-10 21:52 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 5:41 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-11 7:32 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-12 10:21 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-08-04 5:55 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-02 19:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 4:44 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 7:50 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 17:29 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-11 6:15 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-10 7:09 ` Luca Abeni [this message]
2010-07-10 9:20 ` Raistlin
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