From: Raistlin <raistlin@linux.it>
To: Luca Abeni <lucabe72@email.it>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Song Yuan <song.yuan@ericsson.com>,
Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Nicola Manica <nicola.manica@disi.unitn.it>,
Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>,
Harald Gustafsson <harald.gustafsson@ericsson.com>,
Bjoern Brandenburg <bbb@email.unc.edu>,
bastoni@cs.unc.edu, Giuseppe Lipari <lipari@retis.sssup.it>
Subject: Re: periods and deadlines in SCHED_DEADLINE
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:20:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1278753647.4390.109.camel@Palantir> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278745761.5248.15.camel@localhost>
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On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 09:09 +0200, Luca Abeni wrote:
> > - do you think it could be useful to have a different syscall to deal
> > with the period parameter (if it's different from deadline), e.g.,
> > something useful to make the task periodic as you have (if I remember
> > well) in Xenomai or RTAI?
> Maybe I am confused because I missed the initial part of the discussion,
> but here I think there is the risk to mix two different concepts: the
> "reservation period" (that is, the period P used to postpone the
> scheduling deadline when the budget arrives to 0), and the "task
> period" (which has to do with the periodicity of tasks activations).
>
Agree, this is also what I fear...
> For
> implementing a periodic behaviour in the task (this is, AFAIK, what RTAI
> similar API provide), no new syscall is needed: clock_nanosleep() is
> enough. See http://www.disi.unitn.it/~abeni/RTOS/rtapi.pdf for a
> (stupid) example.
>
Yep, agree again, just wanted to see what other folks' thoughts
were. :-)
> > If you think it's worth doing that, do you think the
> > task_wait_interval() syscall that we already added could/should do
> > the job?
> I do not remember what task_wait_interval() does :)
> Is it the syscall you added to indicate the end of a job?
>
Yep. And it can be useful for that purpose, or not being used at all.
> I think if you want a different P_i and D_i you can use D_i for
> generating new scheduling deadlines on task arrivals as "d = t + D_i",
> and P_i to postpone the scheduling deadlines as "d = d + T_i" when the
> budget is 0.
>
Yes, that's exactly what we wanted to do, considered it's also a very
small and easy to achieve behavioural change...
> Depending on the replenishment amount you use, you might need to modify
> the admission test as "Sum_i(Q_i/min{P_i,D_i}) < 1" or not (if you
> always replenish to Q_i, then you need a modified admission test;
> otherwise, you can compute the replenishment amount so that the
> admission test is unaffected).
>
Well, as I tried to point out in the other e-mails, there also are other
problems with the admission test... Let's see if we find a consensus on
how to proceed... :-)
Thanks and regards,
Dario
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-09 13:38 periods and deadlines in SCHED_DEADLINE Raistlin
2010-07-09 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-09 14:51 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 16:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 9:01 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 14:49 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 6:42 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 3:52 ` Andrea Bastoni
2010-08-04 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 5:18 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 9:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 3:53 ` Andrea Bastoni
2010-08-04 5:02 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-10 7:08 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 6:46 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-03 11:42 ` Gregory Haskins
2010-08-04 6:30 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 7:11 ` Luca Abeni
2010-07-10 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-11 6:12 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 9:14 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 17:19 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-10 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 20:08 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-10 21:52 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 5:41 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-11 7:32 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-12 10:21 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-08-04 5:55 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-02 19:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 4:44 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 7:50 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 17:29 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-11 6:15 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-10 7:09 ` Luca Abeni
2010-07-10 9:20 ` Raistlin [this message]
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