From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Raistlin <raistlin@linux.it>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Song Yuan <song.yuan@ericsson.com>,
Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Nicola Manica <nicola.manica@disi.unitn.it>,
Luca Abeni <lucabe72@email.it>,
Claudio Scordino <claudio@evidence.eu.com>,
Harald Gustafsson <harald.gustafsson@ericsson.com>,
Bjoern Brandenburg <bbb@email.unc.edu>,
bastoni@cs.unc.edu, Giuseppe Lipari <lipari@retis.sssup.it>
Subject: Re: periods and deadlines in SCHED_DEADLINE
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:11:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1278774688.1998.42.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278748227.4390.26.camel@Palantir>
On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 09:50 +0200, Raistlin wrote:
> Hey, fine, where's the problem? :-P
We're talking about it.. the exact semantics and the reasons
therefore ;-)
> > What are the exact semantics of this extra proposed syscall?
> >
> Right now, it is:
> task_wait_interval(t) --> "wake me up at the first instant after t when
> you can give me my full runtime"
>
> > What exactly are the benefits over not having it, and simply rely on the
> > task to not wake up more often, but if it does have it run into the lack
> > of budget and sort it that way?
> >
> What you're saying obviously will always work, and it is actually a
> quite common usage pattern (we use it like that a lot! :-)).
>
> The new syscall might help when it is important for a task to
> synchronize with the budget provisioning mechanism. It might be
> uncommon, but there could be situations --more in hard than in soft
> scenarios-- where you want to be sure that you're next job (and all the
> subsequent ones, if you behave well) will get its full runtime, even if
> this means waiting a little bit.
>
> what I was wondering was if this semantic should be modified by the
> introduction of the "period", but I also agree with Luca that we must do
> our best to avoid confusion!
Right, so I would actually expect RT job release to be triggered by
external events (say interrupts) more than on their own. And when its an
external event I don't really see the use of this new syscall.
I guess I'm asking for what reason RT tasks would be ever be
self-releasing, it seems, odd..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-10 15:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-09 13:38 periods and deadlines in SCHED_DEADLINE Raistlin
2010-07-09 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-09 14:51 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 16:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 9:01 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 14:49 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 6:42 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 3:52 ` Andrea Bastoni
2010-08-04 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 5:18 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 9:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 3:53 ` Andrea Bastoni
2010-08-04 5:02 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-10 7:08 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 6:46 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-03 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-03 11:42 ` Gregory Haskins
2010-08-04 6:30 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 7:11 ` Luca Abeni
2010-07-10 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-11 6:12 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 9:14 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 17:19 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-10 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 20:08 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-10 21:52 ` Raistlin
2010-07-11 5:41 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-11 7:32 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-12 10:21 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-08-04 5:55 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-08-02 19:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-04 4:44 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-09 14:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-10 7:50 ` Raistlin
2010-07-10 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-07-10 17:29 ` Harald Gustafsson
2010-07-11 6:15 ` Bjoern Brandenburg
2010-07-10 7:09 ` Luca Abeni
2010-07-10 9:20 ` Raistlin
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