From: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>
To: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
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Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] Describe events in a structured way via sysfs
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:48:28 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1279604908.23815.21.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C40F750.4000607@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 08:20 +0800, Corey Ashford wrote:
> On 07/02/2010 01:06 AM, Lin Ming wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 18:26 +0800, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> * Lin Ming<ming.m.lin@intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Also, we can (optionally) consider 'generic', subsystem level events to
> >>>> also show up under:
> >>>>
> >>>> /sys/bus/pci/drivers/i915/events/
> >>>>
> >>>> This would give a model to non-device-specific events to be listed one
> >>>> level higher in the sysfs hierarchy.
> >>>>
> >>>> This too would be done in the driver, not by generic code. It's generally
> >>>> the driver which knows how the events should be categorized.
> >>>
> >>> This is a bit difficult. I'd like not to touch TRACE_EVENT(). [...]
> >>
> >> We can certainly start with the simpler variant - it's also the more common
> >> case.
> >>
> >>> [...] How does the driver know if an event is 'generic' if TRACE_EVENT is
> >>> not touched?
> >>
> >> Well, it's per driver code which creates the 'events' directory anyway, so
> >> that code decides where to link things. It can link it to the per driver kobj
> >> - or to the per subsys kobj.
> >>
> >>>> I'd imagine something similar for wireless drivers as well - most
> >>>> currently defined events would show up on a per device basis there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you see practical problems with this scheme?
> >>>
> >>> Not now. I may find some problems when write more detail code.
> >>
> >> Ok. Feel free to post RFC patches (even if they are not fully complete yet),
> >> so that we can see how things are progressing.
> >>
> >> I suspect the best approach would be to try to figure out the right sysfs
> >> placement for one or two existing driver tracepoints, so that we can see it
> >> all in practice. (Obviously any changes to drivers will have to go via the
> >> relevant driver maintainer tree(s).)
> >
> > Well, take i915 tracepoints as an example, the sys structures as below
> >
> > /sys/class/drm/card0/events/
> > |-- i915_gem_object_bind
> > | |-- enable
> > | |-- filter
> > | |-- format
> > | `-- id
> ...
>
> Hi Lin,
>
> Sorry for my late reply on this thread. I had missed these posts
> earlier because I had an email filter that was set to look for messages
> with "perf" in the subject, and so I missed this entire thread.
Sorry for my late reply too.
I have been busy with some other stuff. Hope I can send a more
functional patches this week.
>
> With your example here, let's say I want to open this event with the
> perf_events ABI... how would I go about doing that? Have you figured
> out whether the caller would read the id and pass that into the
> interface, or perhaps pass in the fd of the id file (or perhaps the fd
> of the specific event directory).
Please just ignore my above example. Now I have some uncompleted new
patches to export hardware/software/tracepoint events via sysfs, like
below.
The event path is passed in with perf's "-e" option, for example
perf record -e /sys/kernel/events/page-faults -- <some commands>
The caller reads config and type and pass them into perf_event_attr.
1. Hardware events
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0...cpuN/events
|-- L1-dcache-load-misses ===> event name
| |-- config ===> config value for the event
| `-- type ===> event type
|-- cycles
| |-- config
| `-- type
.....
2. Software events
/sys/kernel/events
|-- page-faults
| |-- config
| `-- type
|-- context-switches
| |-- config
| `-- type
....
3. Tracepoint events
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/events
|-- i915_gem_object_create
| |-- config
| `-- type
|-- i915_gem_object_bind
| |-- config
| `-- type
....
....
/sys/devices/system/kvm/kvm0/events
|-- kvm_entry
| |-- config
| `-- type
|-- kvm_hypercall
| |-- config
| `-- type
....
....
>
> Also, I see the filter and format fields here. Would the caller write
> to these fields to set them up? What's the format of the data that's
> written to them? Would it be totally device dependent? It seems like
> there should be a way for a user space tool to discover what can be
> programmed into the filter and format fields.
Now only read-only event attributes(config and type) are exported.
I want to first make some minimal functional patches. Then to implement
the complex writable attributes.
Lin Ming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-20 5:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 1:46 [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] perf: core, export pmus via sysfs Lin Ming
2010-05-18 20:05 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 2:34 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19 2:48 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 3:40 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19 5:00 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 6:32 ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 18:42 ` Greg KH
2010-05-20 19:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 20:19 ` Greg KH
2010-05-20 20:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 23:12 ` Greg KH
2010-05-21 8:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-21 9:40 ` [rfc] Describe events in a structured way " Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <AANLkTinJeYJtCg2aRWhHTcf5E2-dN2-oAfEJ8tAtFjb9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-01 2:34 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-08 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <AANLkTimf1Z0N9cv2Pu2qTTUscn4utC37zOPelCbqQoPv@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-21 8:55 ` Lin Ming
[not found] ` <1277112858.3618.16.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>
[not found] ` <1277187920.4467.3.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com>
[not found] ` <1277189971.3637.5.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>
2010-06-22 7:22 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22 7:33 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22 7:39 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22 8:04 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22 8:16 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22 7:47 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22 7:52 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-24 9:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-24 16:14 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-24 17:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-29 6:15 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-29 8:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-29 9:20 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-29 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-02 8:06 ` Lin Ming
2010-07-03 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-17 0:20 ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 5:48 ` Lin Ming [this message]
2010-07-20 15:19 ` Robert Richter
2010-07-20 17:50 ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 18:30 ` Robert Richter
2010-07-20 21:18 ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 17:43 ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-19 7:06 ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] perf: core, export pmus " Borislav Petkov
2010-05-19 7:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-19 7:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 20:07 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19 2:37 ` Lin Ming
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