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From: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>
To: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
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	"arjan@linux.intel.com" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk>,
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	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc] Describe events in a structured way via sysfs
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:48:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1279604908.23815.21.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C40F750.4000607@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 08:20 +0800, Corey Ashford wrote:
> On 07/02/2010 01:06 AM, Lin Ming wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 18:26 +0800, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> * Lin Ming<ming.m.lin@intel.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Also, we can (optionally) consider 'generic', subsystem level events to
> >>>> also show up under:
> >>>>
> >>>>     /sys/bus/pci/drivers/i915/events/
> >>>>
> >>>> This would give a model to non-device-specific events to be listed one
> >>>> level higher in the sysfs hierarchy.
> >>>>
> >>>> This too would be done in the driver, not by generic code. It's generally
> >>>> the driver which knows how the events should be categorized.
> >>>
> >>> This is a bit difficult. I'd like not to touch TRACE_EVENT(). [...]
> >>
> >> We can certainly start with the simpler variant - it's also the more common
> >> case.
> >>
> >>> [...] How does the driver know if an event is 'generic' if TRACE_EVENT is
> >>> not touched?
> >>
> >> Well, it's per driver code which creates the 'events' directory anyway, so
> >> that code decides where to link things. It can link it to the per driver kobj
> >> - or to the per subsys kobj.
> >>
> >>>> I'd imagine something similar for wireless drivers as well - most
> >>>> currently defined events would show up on a per device basis there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you see practical problems with this scheme?
> >>>
> >>> Not now. I may find some problems when write more detail code.
> >>
> >> Ok. Feel free to post RFC patches (even if they are not fully complete yet),
> >> so that we can see how things are progressing.
> >>
> >> I suspect the best approach would be to try to figure out the right sysfs
> >> placement for one or two existing driver tracepoints, so that we can see it
> >> all in practice. (Obviously any changes to drivers will have to go via the
> >> relevant driver maintainer tree(s).)
> >
> > Well, take i915 tracepoints as an example, the sys structures as below
> >
> > /sys/class/drm/card0/events/
> > |-- i915_gem_object_bind
> > |   |-- enable
> > |   |-- filter
> > |   |-- format
> > |   `-- id
> ...
> 
> Hi Lin,
> 
> Sorry for my late reply on this thread.  I had missed these posts 
> earlier because I had an email filter that was set to look for messages 
> with "perf" in the subject, and so I missed this entire thread.

Sorry for my late reply too.
I have been busy with some other stuff. Hope I can send a more
functional patches this week.

> 
> With your example here, let's say I want to open this event with the 
> perf_events ABI... how would I go about doing that?  Have you figured 
> out whether the caller would read the id and pass that into the 
> interface, or perhaps pass in the fd of the id file (or perhaps the fd 
> of the specific event directory).

Please just ignore my above example. Now I have some uncompleted new
patches to export hardware/software/tracepoint events via sysfs, like
below.

The event path is passed in with perf's "-e" option, for example
perf record -e /sys/kernel/events/page-faults -- <some commands>

The caller reads config and type and pass them into perf_event_attr.

1. Hardware events
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0...cpuN/events
|-- L1-dcache-load-misses  ===> event name
|   |-- config             ===> config value for the event
|   `-- type               ===> event type
|-- cycles
|   |-- config
|   `-- type
.....

2. Software events
/sys/kernel/events
|-- page-faults
|   |-- config
|   `-- type
|-- context-switches
|   |-- config
|   `-- type
....

3. Tracepoint events
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/events
|-- i915_gem_object_create
|   |-- config
|   `-- type
|-- i915_gem_object_bind
|   |-- config
|   `-- type
....
....
/sys/devices/system/kvm/kvm0/events
|-- kvm_entry
|   |-- config
|   `-- type
|-- kvm_hypercall
|   |-- config
|   `-- type
....
....

> 
> Also, I see the filter and format fields here.  Would the caller write 
> to these fields to set them up?  What's the format of the data that's 
> written to them?  Would it be totally device dependent?  It seems like 
> there should be a way for a user space tool to discover what can be 
> programmed into the filter and format fields.

Now only read-only event attributes(config and type) are exported.
I want to first make some minimal functional patches. Then to implement
the complex writable attributes.

Lin Ming



  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-20  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-19  1:46 [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] perf: core, export pmus via sysfs Lin Ming
2010-05-18 20:05 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19  2:34   ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19  2:48     ` Greg KH
2010-05-19  3:40       ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19  5:00         ` Greg KH
2010-05-19  6:32           ` Lin Ming
2010-05-19  7:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 18:42         ` Greg KH
2010-05-20 19:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-20 20:19             ` Greg KH
2010-05-20 20:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-20 23:12             ` Greg KH
2010-05-21  8:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-21  9:40                 ` [rfc] Describe events in a structured way " Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                   ` <AANLkTinJeYJtCg2aRWhHTcf5E2-dN2-oAfEJ8tAtFjb9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-01  2:34                     ` Lin Ming
2010-06-08 18:43                       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                   ` <AANLkTimf1Z0N9cv2Pu2qTTUscn4utC37zOPelCbqQoPv@mail.gmail.com>
2010-06-21  8:55                     ` Lin Ming
     [not found]                       ` <1277112858.3618.16.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>
     [not found]                         ` <1277187920.4467.3.camel@minggr.sh.intel.com>
     [not found]                           ` <1277189971.3637.5.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net>
2010-06-22  7:22                             ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22  7:33                               ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22  7:39                                 ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22  8:04                                   ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22  8:16                                     ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-22  7:47                                 ` Lin Ming
2010-06-22  7:52                                   ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-24  9:36                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-24 16:14                                   ` Johannes Berg
2010-06-24 17:33                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-29  6:15                                       ` Lin Ming
2010-06-29  8:55                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-06-29  9:20                                           ` Lin Ming
2010-06-29 10:26                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-02  8:06                                               ` Lin Ming
2010-07-03 12:54                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-07-17  0:20                                                 ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20  5:48                                                   ` Lin Ming [this message]
2010-07-20 15:19                                                     ` Robert Richter
2010-07-20 17:50                                                       ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 18:30                                                         ` Robert Richter
2010-07-20 21:18                                                           ` Corey Ashford
2010-07-20 17:43                                                     ` Corey Ashford
2010-05-19  7:06     ` [RFC][PATCH v2 06/11] perf: core, export pmus " Borislav Petkov
2010-05-19  7:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-19  7:23         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-05-18 20:07 ` Greg KH
2010-05-19  2:37   ` Lin Ming

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