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From: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Lin, Ming M" <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"robert.richter@amd.com" <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	"acme@redhat.com" <acme@redhat.com>,
	"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>,
	"dzickus@redhat.com" <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	"gorcunov@gmail.com" <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
	"fweisbec@gmail.com" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] perf: show package power consumption in perf
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:44:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282268675.5181.1608.camel@rui> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1282208521.1926.4535.camel@laptop>

On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 17:02 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >  - if it is a pure read-only counter without sampling support,
> > > >    expose it as such, don't fudge in the hrtimer stuff. Simply
> > > >    fail to create a sampling event.
> > > > 
> > > >    SH has the same problem for its 'normal' PMU, the solution is
> > > >    to use event groups, Matt was looking at adding support to
> > > >    perf-record for that, if creating a sampling event fails, fall
> > > >    back to {hrtimer, $event} groups.
> > > 
> > > I had a quick look over the patches and Peter is right - the group
> > > events stuff would probably fit quite well here. Unfortunately, due to
> > > holidays and things, I haven't been able to get them finished
> > > yet. I'll get on that ASAP.
> > 
> > Hi, Matt
> > 
> > What's the "group events stuff"?
> > Is there some discussion on LKML or elsewhere I can have a look at?
> 
> its some obscure perf feature:
> 
>  leader = sys_perf_event_open(&hrtimer_attr, pid, cpu, 0, 0);
>  sibling = sys_perf_event_open(&rapl_attr, pid, cpu, leader, 0);
> 
> will create an even group (which means that both events require to be
> co-scheduled). If you then provided:
> 
> hrtimer_attr.read_format |= PERF_FORMAT_GROUP;
> hrtimer_attr.sample_type |= PERF_SAMPLE_READ;
> 
hrtimer_attr is only shared in an event group, and rapl needs its owen
event group, right?

> the samples from the hrtimer will contain a field like:
> 
>  *      { u64           nr;
>  *        { u64         time_enabled; } && PERF_FORMAT_ENABLED
>  *        { u64         time_running; } && PERF_FORMAT_RUNNING
>  *        { u64         value;
>  *          { u64       id;           } && PERF_FORMAT_ID
>  *        }             cntr[nr];
>  *      } && PERF_FORMAT_GROUP
> 
> Which contains both the hrtimer count (ns) and the RAPL count (watts).
> 
> Using that you can compute the RAPL delta between consecutive samples
> and use that to weight the sample.
> 
> 
> For perf-stat non of this is needed, since it doesn't use sampling
> counters anyway ;-).

so what do you think the rapl counter should look like in userspace?
showing it in perf-stat looks nice, right? :)

thanks,
rui


  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-20  1:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-18  7:59 [RFC PATCH 0/3] perf: show package power consumption in perf Zhang Rui
2010-08-18 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-18 12:41   ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-19  3:28     ` Lin Ming
2010-08-19  7:54       ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-19  8:15         ` Lin Ming
2010-08-19  8:31         ` Zhang Rui
2010-08-19  8:32           ` Matt Fleming
2010-08-19  9:44             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-21  1:18               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-08-21  9:30                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-23  9:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-19  9:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20  1:44         ` Zhang Rui [this message]
2010-08-20  9:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20 12:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-08-20 21:34               ` acme
2010-08-19  2:43   ` Lin Ming
2010-08-19  8:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20  0:21       ` Lin Ming

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