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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/11] sched: CFS low-latency features
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:41:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282923686.1975.2780.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100827152125.GB14926@Krystal>

On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 11:21 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>        SIGEV_THREAD
>               Upon  timer  expiration,  invoke  sigev_notify_function as if it
>               were the start function of a new thread.  (Among the implementa‐
>               tion  possibilities  here are that each timer notification could
>               result in the creation of a new thread, or that a single  thread
>               is  created  to  receive  all  notifications.)   The function is
>               invoked   with   sigev_value   as   its   sole   argument.    If
>               sigev_notify_attributes  is  not  NULL,  it  should  point  to a
>               pthread_attr_t structure that defines  attributes  for  the  new
>               thread (see pthread_attr_init(3).
> 
> So basically, it's the glibc implementation that is broken, not the standard.

The standard is broken too, what context will the new thread inherit?
The pthread_attr_t stuff tries to cover some of that, but pthread_attr_t
doesn't cover all inherited task attributes, and allows for some very
'interesting' bugs [1].

The specification also doesn't cover the case where the handler takes
more time to execute than the timer interval.

[1] - consider the case where pthread_attr_t includes the stack and we
use a spawn thread on expire policy and then run into the situation
where the handler is delayed past the next expiration.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-26 18:09 [RFC PATCH 00/11] sched: CFS low-latency features Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] sched: fix string comparison in features Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] sched: debug spread check account for nr_running Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] sched: FAIR_SLEEPERS feature Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] sched: debug cleanup place entity Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] sched buddy enable buddy logic starting at 2 running threads Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] sched: dynamic min_vruntime Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] sched rename struct task in_iowait field to sched_in_iowait Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] sched input interactivity-driven next buddy Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] sched: timer-driven " Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 18:02   ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] sched: timer-driven next buddy (update) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 18:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] sched: fork expedited Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:09 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] sched: fair sleepers for timer and interactive Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 18:57 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] sched: CFS low-latency features Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-26 21:25   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-08-26 22:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-08-26 23:09       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 23:36         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27  7:38           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-27 15:23             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27  8:43           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-08-27 15:50             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27  7:37         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-27 15:21           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 15:41             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-08-27 16:09               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 17:27                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-27 18:32                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 19:23                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-27 19:57                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-31 15:02                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 23:18       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-26 23:28         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-26 23:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-26 23:53             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27  0:09               ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-08-27 15:18                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 15:20                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-08-27 15:30                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 15:41                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-26 23:49   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27  7:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-27  8:19       ` Mike Galbraith
2010-08-27 15:43         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-27 18:38           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-08-28  7:33             ` Mike Galbraith
2010-08-27 10:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2010-08-27 10:58   ` Peter Zijlstra

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