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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, paulus@samba.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	perfmon2-devel@lists.sf.net, eranian@gmail.com,
	robert.richter@amd.com, acme@redhat.com,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] perf_events: add support for per-cpu per-cgroup monitoring (v3)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:25:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1285140358.2275.891.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100922043424.GH6676@balbir.in.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 10:04 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:

> That understanding is correct, but the whole approach sounds more
> complex due to several subsystems involved, the expectation is that
> we'll move perf to all the correct cgroups for each subsystem.

Well, we'll only move a completely dormant task to a cgroup and out
again.

> > > > If we were to fork a child that's simply sitting idle in waitpid() (or
> > > > any other blocking syscall) we can move that around cgroup without
> > > > affecting the cgroup itself.
> > > 
> > > But then things get a bit more complicated because the perf_event_open()
> > > has to be done in that child. File descriptors created in child processes
> > > and not shared with their parent. You'd have to pass file descriptors around.
> > > That seems overly complicated.
> > 
> > Uhm, no the trick is that the child remains absolutely dormant and
> > therefore doesn't accrue any accounting, all you need is a known task in
> > the cgroup, the parent can then specify the child pid to identify the
> > group.
> > 
> > Once you've opened the counter, you can move the kid out and kill it.
> > Note that moving it out of the cgroup before killing it ensure it never
> > wakes up inside that cgroup.
> 
> What the benefits of this complexity, not chaning perf_event_attr?

Yes, attach information should not be in _attr. And you avoid the hassle
of creating a special file and passing fds to it around.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-22  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-09 13:05 [RFC PATCH 0/2] perf_events: add support for per-cpu per-cgroup monitoring (v3) Stephane Eranian
2010-09-21  9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-21  9:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-21 11:48     ` Stephane Eranian
2010-09-21 12:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-21 13:38         ` Stephane Eranian
2010-09-21 14:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-21 16:17             ` Stephane Eranian
2010-09-21 16:27               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-21 16:33                 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-09-22  4:34                 ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-22  7:25                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-09-22  4:23   ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-22  7:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-22  9:18       ` Balbir Singh
2010-09-22 10:26         ` Stephane Eranian
2010-09-25  9:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-28  9:23             ` Stephane Eranian

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