From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, paulus@samba.org,
davem@davemloft.net, fweisbec@gmail.com,
perfmon2-devel@lists.sf.net, eranian@gmail.com,
robert.richter@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf_events: fix time tracking in samples
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:13:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1287573196.3488.2.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimjabS1MEkheJ0z2keceH=0eEfC_NbyCjZ-Ltxz@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 21:03 +0200, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> >> Ok, I missed that. But I don't understand why you need the lock to
> >> udpate the time. The lower-level clock is lockless if I recall. Can't you
> >> use an atomic ops in update_context_time()?
> >
> > atomic ops would slow down those code paths, also, I don't think you can
> > fully get the ordering between ->tstamp_$foo and ->total_time_$foo just
> > right.
> >
>
> I don't get that. Could you give an example?
Take update_context_time(), it has:
now = perf_clock();
ctx->time += now - ctx->timestamp;
ctx->timestamp = now;
If you interleave two of those you get:
ctx->timestamp = T0;
now = perf_clock(); /* T1 */
ctx->time += now - ctx->timestamp;
now = perf_clock(); /* T2 */
ctx->time += now - ctx->timestamp;
ctx->timestamp = now;
ctx->timestamp = now;
So at this point you would expect timestamp = T2 and time += T2-T0.
Except that: time += T1 - T0 + T2 - T0 != T2 - T0 and
timestamp = T1
You can of course write it as something like x86_perf_event_update(),
but then there's trying to keep total_time_running and
total_time_enabled in sync.
> > Not sure, but barring 64bit atomics for all these, 32bit archs and NMI
> > are going to be 'interesting'
> >
>
> Every sample needs to be correct, otherwise you run the risk of introducing
> bias.
>
> I think if the tradeoffs is correctness vs. speed, I'd choose correctness.
Well, yes, but it sucks, esp. since its only relevant to
PERF_SAMPLE_READ.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-20 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-19 16:47 [PATCH] perf_events: fix time tracking in samples Stephane Eranian
2010-10-19 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19 17:01 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-10-19 17:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-19 19:03 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-10-20 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-20 11:13 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-10-20 12:42 ` Stephane Eranian
2010-10-20 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
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