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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Damien Wyart <damien.wyart@free.fr>
Cc: Chase Douglas <chase.douglas@canonical.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	tmhikaru@gmail.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>
Subject: Re: High CPU load when machine is idle (related to PROBLEM: Unusually high load average when idle in 2.6.35, 2.6.35.1 and later)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:43:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1287582208.3488.20.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1287581440.3488.16.camel@twins>

On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 15:30 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 15:27 +0200, Damien Wyart wrote:
> > 
> > Should'nt we enlarge the list of CC, because for now, responsivity has
> > been close to 0 and it seems we will get a 2.6.36 with buggy load avg
> > calculation. Even if it is only statistics, many supervision tools rely
> > on the load avg, so for production environments, this is not a good
> > thing. 
> 
> It already contains all the folks who know the code I'm afraid.. :/
> 
> I've been playing with it a bit more today, but haven't actually managed
> to make it better, just differently worse..

Ah, I just remembered Venki recently poked at this code too, maybe he's
got a bright idea..

Venki, there are cpu-load issues, the reported issue is that idle load
is too high, and I think I can see that happening with the current code
(due to 74f5187ac8).

The flaw I can see in that commit is that we can go idle multiple times
during the LOAD_FREQ window, which will basically inflate the idle
contribution.

All attempts from me to fix that so far have resulted in curious
results..

Would you have a moment to also look at this?

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-20 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-29  7:01 High CPU load when machine is idle Damien Wyart
2010-10-14 14:58 ` High CPU load when machine is idle (related to PROBLEM: Unusually high load average when idle in 2.6.35, 2.6.35.1 and later) Damien Wyart
2010-10-14 15:29   ` Chase Douglas
2010-10-14 15:56     ` Damien Wyart
2010-10-15 11:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-18 12:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-20 13:27   ` Damien Wyart
2010-10-20 13:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-20 13:43       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-10-20 14:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-20 14:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-20 17:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-20 20:24             ` Damien Wyart
2010-10-21  1:48             ` tmhikaru
2010-10-21  1:53               ` tmhikaru
2010-10-21  8:22                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-21  8:57                   ` tmhikaru
2010-10-21 18:36               ` tmhikaru
2010-10-22  1:37                 ` tmhikaru
2010-10-21 12:09             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-21 17:18               ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-22 21:03                 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-22 23:03                 ` High CPU load when machine is idle (related to PROBLEM: Unusually high load average when idle in 2.6.35, 2.6.35.1 and later) Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-23  2:13                   ` tmhikaru
2010-10-25 10:12                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-25 16:29                     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-26 12:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-26 14:05                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-29 19:42                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-09 18:55                           ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-09 19:02                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10  2:37                               ` tmhikaru
2010-11-10 12:01                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-10  3:45                               ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-10 12:00                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-14  5:14                                   ` tmhikaru
2010-11-25 13:31                                     ` Damien Wyart
2010-11-25 14:03                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-27 20:15                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-28  4:26                                           ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-28 11:40                                           ` Damien Wyart
2010-11-28 18:07                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-29 11:38                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-29 19:40                                               ` tmhikaru
2010-11-29 23:01                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-30 14:59                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-30 15:39                                                     ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-30 20:04                                                       ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-30 16:53                                                     ` Damien Wyart
2010-11-30 17:29                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-01 21:27                                                     ` tmhikaru
2010-12-02 10:16                                                       ` tmhikaru
2010-12-08 20:40                                                     ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Cure more NO_HZ load average woes tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-30 20:01                                                   ` High CPU load when machine is idle (related to PROBLEM: Unusually high load average when idle in 2.6.35, 2.6.35.1 and later) tmhikaru
2010-11-30 16:49                                               ` Damien Wyart

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