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From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v4 0/2] Lockless memory allocator and list
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:45:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1289958330.8719.1196.camel@yhuang-dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1289930649.2109.640.camel@laptop>

On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 02:04 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 08:38 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > I kind of like the lock-less list implementation (it could easily be
> > useful for random things, and it's very simple).
> 
> Yes, there's various implementations floating around, and we already
> have one in-kernel ( net/rds/xlist.h ), mason and axboe and me have been
> kicking around various patches using that thing in other circumstances
> as well.
> 
> [ At some point we had perf -- what now is kernel/irq_work.c --  using
>   it as well, but the new code grew too complex due to requirements
>   from Huang ]

I think it should be possible for them to use the general lockless list
implementation in the patch. I think this will reduce some code
duplication/complexity. Do you agree?

> >  And I don't think the
> > notion of a lockless memory allocator is wrong either, although it
> > looks a lot more specialized than the list thing (the solution to
> > lockless allocations is generally simply to do them ahead of time).
> > 
> Right, I don't generally object to lockless things, but they either need
> to be 1) faster than the existing code, and/or 2) have a very convincing
> use-case (other than performance) for their added complexity.

I will post a generic hardware error reporting mechanism patchset soon.
The lock-less memory allocator is used there. And I think maybe we can
use it in lockdep code too. Which needs to allocate something locklessly
if my understanding is correct.

> Afaict the proposed patch adds lots more LOCK'ed instructions into that
> allocator path than it removes, ie its a slow down for existing users.

Let's take a look at gen_pool_alloc

The locks removed:

- one rwlock: pool->lock
- one spinlock for each chunk: chunk->lock

The LOCK'ed instructions added:

- one or two cmpxchg in most cases. But if there is heavy contention
between users, there will be more cmpxchg. So I suggest to use one
gen_pool for each CPU for heavy contention situation.

BTW: The original gen_pool is designed to deal with special purpose
memory in some drivers. So I don't think performance is a big issue for
it.

Best Regards,
Huang Ying



  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-17  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-16  0:53 [PATCH -v4 0/2] Lockless memory allocator and list Huang Ying
2010-11-16  0:53 ` [PATCH -v4 1/2] lib, Make gen_pool memory allocator lockless Huang Ying
2010-11-16 21:50   ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17  2:18     ` Huang Ying
2010-11-17  2:35       ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17  3:03         ` Huang Ying
2010-11-17  3:57           ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17  6:05             ` Huang Ying
2010-11-17 10:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 11:16                 ` huang ying
2010-11-17 11:38                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 10:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 11:47         ` huang ying
2010-11-17 11:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18  1:14             ` Huang Ying
2010-11-18  8:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18  8:43                 ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18  8:57                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18  9:03                     ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-16  0:53 ` [PATCH -v4 2/2] lib, Add lock-less NULL terminated single list Huang Ying
2010-11-16 11:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 16:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 11:49 ` [PATCH -v4 0/2] Lockless memory allocator and list Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 16:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-16 18:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17  1:45       ` Huang Ying [this message]
2010-11-17  1:03     ` Huang Ying

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