From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace'
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:18:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1290003505.2109.833.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1290003110.2109.822.camel@laptop>
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 15:11 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> The idea was to not let the filter engine work on the trace data (once
> its gathered) but on the trace argument right at the beginning of the
> tracepoint callchain, since some of the trace data is an expression of
> the trace argument (say next->prio instead of next), the trace
> expression wouldn't stay invariant, you'd have to write a different
> filter for the same effect.
>
> So I think it would be wise to make this change sooner rather than
> later.
Also, I see a lot of overlap with the dynamic probes stuff which needs
the help of magic dwarves to come up with the right data to gather.
Merging the dynamic tracepoint and filter stuff would be nice, there's
no way you can express next->prio without the help of these short
buggers with large axes.
The trouble is that the dynamic tracepoint stuff is privileged for good
reasons, try next+0x1000000 and you're out in the woods, priv. only
filters otoh just doesn't sound too hot.
Another nasty thing is that you actually need to have these dwarves
present, which means having the -debug package installed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-17 14:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-16 21:04 [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-16 21:27 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 21:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:09 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:48 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:07 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 8:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 15:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 18:13 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 18:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 18:30 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 16:49 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 23:23 ` Joe Perches
2010-11-16 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 1:37 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 1:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 3:16 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 3:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:00 ` Bob Copeland
2010-11-17 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-11-17 14:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 15:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 15:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 15:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 16:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:40 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 18:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-18 5:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-18 6:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-17 15:33 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 18:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 18:53 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 19:25 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 9:49 ` Philipp Marek
[not found] ` <4CE38C53.8090606@kernel.org>
2010-11-17 12:07 ` [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18 1:18 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 8:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 16:25 ` hp
2010-11-18 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 19:13 ` AW: " Reichert, Hans-Peter
2010-11-18 17:06 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 12:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Török Edwin
2010-11-17 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:05 ` Török Edwin
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18 0:47 ` Ian Munsie
[not found] ` <20101118151141.GA3368@redhat.com>
2010-11-19 2:32 ` Ian Munsie
2010-11-19 15:23 ` Jason Baron
[not found] ` <4CECACF9.3080907@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <4CFD7182.4060206@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2010-12-07 4:03 ` PowerPC, ftrace: Add PPC raw syscall tracepoints & ftrace fixes Ian Munsie
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