From: Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace'
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:33:21 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1290008001.1921.14.camel@elnicho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1290003110.2109.822.camel@laptop>
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 15:11 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 15:00 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > But yes, it is functional.
> >
> > I suspect that is what matters mostly - unless you think that it's impossible to
> > have a sane implementation of it, if the users come.
>
> I'm not sure, I raised the point several times, and I think Steve and
> Tom though it was possible to implement sanely, but I'm not sure if it
> was expression invariant (the fix that is).
>
> It would be very good to have a definite answer on that.
>
> The idea was to not let the filter engine work on the trace data (once
> its gathered) but on the trace argument right at the beginning of the
> tracepoint callchain, since some of the trace data is an expression of
> the trace argument (say next->prio instead of next), the trace
> expression wouldn't stay invariant, you'd have to write a different
> filter for the same effect.
>
IIRC, I think the conclusion we came to was that it could be done
mechanically if for example the right-hand-side of an assignment in
TP_fast_assign() only involved a simple variable assignment, but as
Steve pointed out, some assignments are more complicated than that.
For example, in the sched_switch tracepoint assignments:
__entry->prev_prio = prev->prio;
__entry->prev_state = __trace_sched_switch_state(prev);
so the prev_prio should be able to be tested 'in-line' but the
prev_state would require a temporary buffer to write the value into
before doing the test as mentioned by Steve. At which point you're no
further ahead (in that case) than the current situation...
Tom
> So I think it would be wise to make this change sooner rather than
> later.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-17 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-16 21:04 [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-16 21:27 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 21:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-16 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-16 22:09 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:48 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:07 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-16 22:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 8:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:43 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 15:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 18:13 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 18:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 18:30 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 16:49 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 23:23 ` Joe Perches
2010-11-16 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 1:37 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 1:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 3:16 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17 3:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:00 ` Bob Copeland
2010-11-17 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 14:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 15:41 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 15:55 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-17 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-11-17 15:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 15:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 16:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 16:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 19:40 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 18:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-18 5:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-18 6:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-11-17 15:33 ` Tom Zanussi [this message]
2010-11-17 18:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 18:53 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-11-17 19:25 ` Tom Zanussi
2010-11-17 19:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-11-17 9:49 ` Philipp Marek
[not found] ` <4CE38C53.8090606@kernel.org>
2010-11-17 12:07 ` [patch] trace: Add user-space event tracing/injection Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 13:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-17 12:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-11-17 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-17 13:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18 1:18 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-18 8:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 16:25 ` hp
2010-11-18 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-18 19:13 ` AW: " Reichert, Hans-Peter
2010-11-18 17:06 ` Darren Hart
2010-11-17 12:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] New utility: 'trace' Török Edwin
2010-11-17 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:05 ` Török Edwin
2010-11-17 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 13:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-11-18 0:47 ` Ian Munsie
[not found] ` <20101118151141.GA3368@redhat.com>
2010-11-19 2:32 ` Ian Munsie
2010-11-19 15:23 ` Jason Baron
[not found] ` <4CECACF9.3080907@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <4CFD7182.4060206@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2010-12-07 4:03 ` PowerPC, ftrace: Add PPC raw syscall tracepoints & ftrace fixes Ian Munsie
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