From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755199Ab0KURpT (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:45:19 -0500 Received: from canuck.infradead.org ([134.117.69.58]:47790 "EHLO canuck.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754686Ab0KURpS convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:45:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3 v2] perf: Update perf tool to monitor uncore events From: Peter Zijlstra To: Stephane Eranian Cc: Andi Kleen , Lin Ming , Ingo Molnar , lkml , Frederic Weisbecker , Arjan van de Ven In-Reply-To: References: <1290340907.2245.125.camel@localhost> <340872239c47b2ec237c88488cb7b6ac.squirrel@www.firstfloor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:45:29 +0100 Message-ID: <1290361529.2153.42.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 13:22 +0100, Stephane Eranian wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > >> > >> samples pcnt function DSO > >> _______ _____ ______________________ > >> ____________________________________ > >> > >> 8.00 18.6% kallsyms_expand_symbol [kernel.kallsyms] > > > > Reporting a symbol for an uncore event seems highly misleading. > > After all the uncore counter has no idea for which core the event was, > > so there isn't really any instruction pointer to report. > > The event could be event caused by a PCI device or similar. > > > > For per function monitoring of uncore events one has to use > > OFFCORE_RESPONSE, like I implemented recently. > > > > I would suggest to not report any symbol names for uncore events. > > Doing so just will confuse users. > > > > In fact I suspect uncore events are only really useful > > with "stat", but not with "top", or if they are used in top > > then the symbol reporting should be disabled. > > > I agree, uncore should only be used for counting on a > per-cpu basis. You can leave the perf tool as is, but > that opens up the risk of misinterpretation by many users, > or you restrict this in the tool directly which is the better > solution in my mind. I would argue against restricting the tool, print a warning perhaps. I mean, give the user all the rope he needs and tell him how to tie the knot is the unix way, right? :-)