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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] 2.6.37-rc3 massive interactivity regression on ARM
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:32:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1292013157.13513.69.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1012101410571.13986@router.home>

On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 14:23 -0600, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > Its not about passing per-cpu pointers, its about passing long pointers.
> >
> > When I write:
> >
> > void foo(u64 *bla)
> > {
> > 	*bla++;
> > }
> >
> > DEFINE_PER_CPU(u64, plop);
> >
> > void bar(void)
> > {
> > 	foo(__this_cpu_ptr(plop));
> > }
> >
> > I want gcc to emit the equivalent to:
> >
> > __this_cpu_inc(plop); /* incq %fs:(%0) */
> >
> > Now I guess the C type system will get in the way of this ever working,
> > since a long pointer would have a distinct type from a regular
> > pointer :/
> >
> > The idea is to use 'regular' functions with the per-cpu data in a
> > transparent manner so as not to have to replicate all logic.
> 
> That would mean you would have to pass information in the pointer at
> runtime indicating that this particular pointer is a per cpu pointer.
> 
> Code for the Itanium arch can do that because it has per cpu virtual
> mappings. So you define a virtual area for per cpu data and then map it
> differently for each processor. If we would have a different page table
> for each processor then we could avoid using segment register and do the
> same on x86.

I don't think its a runtime issue, its a compile time issue. At compile
time the compiler can see the argument is a long pointer:
%fs:(addr,idx,size), and could propagate this into the caller.

The above example will compute the effective address by doing something
like:

  lea %fs:(addr,idx,size),%ebx

and will then do something like

  inc (%ebx)

Where it could easily have optimized this into:

  inc %fs:(addr,idx,size)

esp when foo would be inlined. If its an actual call-site you need
function overloading because a long pointer has a different signature
from a regular pointer, and that is something C doesn't do.

> > > Seems that you do not have that use case in mind. So a seqlock restricted
> > > to a single processor? If so then you wont need any of those smp write
> > > barriers mentioned earlier. A simple compiler barrier() is sufficient.
> >
> > The seqcount is sometimes read by different CPUs, but I don't see why we
> > couldn't do what Eric suggested.
> 
> But you would have to define a per cpu seqlock. Each cpu would have
> its own seqlock. Then you could have this_cpu_read_seqcount_begin and
> friends:
> 

> Then you can do
> 
> this_cpu_read_seqcount_begin(&bla)
> 

Which to me seems to be exactly what Eric proposed..

> But then this seemed to be a discussion related to ARM. ARM does not have
> optimized per cpu accesses.

Nah, there's multiple issues all nicely mangled into one thread ;-)



  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-10 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-27 15:16 [BUG] 2.6.37-rc3 massive interactivity regression on ARM Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 12:32 ` Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 13:17   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-05 14:19     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-05 16:07       ` Mikael Pettersson
2010-12-05 16:21         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 12:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 12:55             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 14:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 14:28                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 14:44                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 15:05                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-08 15:43                     ` Linus Walleij
2010-12-08 20:42                     ` john stultz
2010-12-08 23:31                   ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 12:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 17:43                       ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 17:55                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 18:11                           ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 18:55                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 22:21                               ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-09 23:16                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-09 23:35                                   ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-12-10 10:08                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:17                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:27                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 13:47                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 16:50                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 16:54                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 17:18                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 17:49                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 18:14                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 18:39                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 18:46                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:51                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 20:07                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 20:23                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 20:32                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-12-10 20:39                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 20:49                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 21:09                                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 21:22                                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-10 21:45                                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-12-10 17:56                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 18:10                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 18:43                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:17                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-12-10 19:37                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-10 19:25                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-13 14:33                             ` Jack Daniel
2010-12-06 21:29       ` Venkatesh Pallipadi

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