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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Linux SCSI List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] scsi: don't use execute_in_process_context()
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:09:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1292335754.3058.2.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D073E9A.3000608@kernel.org>

On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 10:53 +0100, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, James.
> 
> On 12/12/2010 11:48 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> > The analysis above isn't quite correct, I'm afraid.  We use the
> > execute_in_process_context() not to avoid deadlocks, but to acquire
> > process context if we don't have it because the API allows calling from
> > sites at interrupt context.  The point of using
> > execute_in_process_context() is that we actually want to make use of the
> > user context if we have one ... there's no point using a workqueue in
> > that case, because there's nothing to be gained (except to slow
> > everything down).  We have no ordering constraints (the traditional
> > reason for using workqueues) so this is purely about context.
> 
> Sure, what I tried to say was that the change couldn't introduce
> deadlock no matter how it was used.  Sure execute_in_process_context()
> would be slightly more efficient, but it currently is used a few times
> only in quite cold paths where optimization isn't necessary at all and
> the API is somewhat incomplete in that it doesn't provide ordering or
> synchronization APIs.

That's the point ... it's purely for operations which require user
context which may not have it.  There's no synchronisation by design
(it's a simple API).

> So, unless there's a compelling reason, let's remove it.

The open coding of if (in_atomic()) { do workqueue stuff } else
{ execute function } is rather bug prone (most people tend to do
in_interrupt()).  It's better to encapsulate it in an API.

>   It has been
> there for quite some time now and hasn't grown any other users.  There
> wouldn't be any noticeable difference for the current users either.
> If you really like to keep it in the current users, let's move it into
> SCSI.  I don't see much reason to keep it as a part of generic
> workqueue API in its current form.

It was in SCSI ... I got told to make it generic.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-14 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-19 12:57 [PATCH 1/2] scsi: remove bogus use of struct execute_work in sg Tejun Heo
2010-10-19 12:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] scsi: don't use execute_in_process_context() Tejun Heo
2010-10-22 10:03   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-12-12 22:48   ` James Bottomley
2010-12-14  9:53     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-14 14:09       ` James Bottomley [this message]
2010-12-14 14:19         ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-14 14:26           ` James Bottomley
2010-12-14 14:33             ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-15  3:04               ` James Bottomley
2010-12-15 15:47                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-15 15:54                   ` James Bottomley
2010-12-15 16:00                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-15 17:22                       ` James Bottomley
2010-12-15 19:05                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-15 19:10                           ` James Bottomley
2010-12-15 19:19                             ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-15 19:33                               ` James Bottomley
2010-12-15 19:42                                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-15 19:46                                   ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-16 14:39                                   ` James Bottomley
2010-12-16 15:51                                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-15 19:34                               ` Tejun Heo
2010-10-20 14:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] scsi: remove bogus use of struct execute_work in sg FUJITA Tomonori
2010-10-20 19:56 ` Douglas Gilbert

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