From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@au1.ibm.com>,
Tim Pepper <lnxninja@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/15] nohz_task: Avoid nohz task cpu as non-idle timer target
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:12:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1292861524.5021.22.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1292861202.22905.23.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 11:06 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 16:47 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 16:24 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > Unbound timers are preferably targeted for non idle cpu. If
> > > possible though, prioritize idle cpus over nohz task cpus,
> > > because the main point of nohz task is to avoid unnecessary
> > > timer interrupts.
> >
> > Oh is it?
> >
> > I'd very much expect the cpu that arms the timer to get the interrupt. I
> > mean, if the task doesn't want to get interrupted by timers,
> > _DON'T_USE_TIMERS_ to begin with.
> >
> > So no, don't much like this at all.
>
> I think this comes from other tasks on other CPUs that are using timers.
Tasks on other CPUs should not cause timers on this CPU, _if_ that does
happen, fix that.
> Although, I'm not sure what causes an "unbound" timer to happen. I
> thought timers usually go off on the CPU that asked for it to go off.
They do, except if you enable some weird power management feature that
migrates timers around so as to let CPUs sleep longer. But I doubt
that's the reason for this here, and if it is, just disable that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-20 16:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-20 15:24 [RFC PATCH 00/15] Nohz task support Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] nohz_task: New mask for cpus having nohz task Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-24 8:00 ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-12-24 8:19 ` Dario Faggioli
2010-12-24 12:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] nohz_task: Avoid nohz task cpu as non-idle timer target Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-12-21 0:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 0:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] nohz_task: Make tick stop and restart callable outside idle Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 16:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 16:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] nohz_task: Stop the tick when the nohz task runs alone Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 14:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 15:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] nohz_task: Restart the tick when another task compete on the cpu Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] nohz_task: Keep the tick if rcu needs it Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 0:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-12-21 2:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] nohz_task: Restart tick when RCU forces nohz task cpu quiescent state Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 23:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 15:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] smp: Don't warn if irq are disabled but we don't wait for the ipi Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 0:02 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] rcu: Make rcu_enter,exit_nohz() callable from irq Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-21 19:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] nohz_task: Enter in extended quiescent state when in userspace Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-21 21:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-22 2:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] x86: Nohz task support Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 15:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] clocksource: Ignore nohz task cpu in clocksource watchdog Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] sched: Protect nohz task cpu affinity Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 17:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 1:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] nohz_task: Clear nohz task attribute on exit() Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:24 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] nohz_task: Procfs interface Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-20 15:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 17:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 18:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 21:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-22 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-22 9:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-22 20:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 14:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 15:44 ` [RFC PATCH 00/15] Nohz task support Steven Rostedt
2010-12-20 23:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 1:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-12-21 2:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 7:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 13:13 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-21 13:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-21 17:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-12-20 16:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-21 1:53 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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