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From: Dario Faggioli <raistlin@linux.it>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	torbenh <torbenh@gmx.de>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, roland@redhat.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] Reading POSIX CPU timer from outside the process.
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:10:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1293631815.2899.1238.camel@Palantir> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101229132130.GA16349@redhat.com>

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On Wed, 2010-12-29 at 14:21 +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote: 
> > > How so? For example, with this change
> > > clock_getres(MAKE_THREAD_CPUCLOCK(pid_of_sub_thread)) won't work, no?
> > >
> > I tested all the clock_getres() calls that came to my mind (at least the
> > one that are possible from an userspace program), and they always worked
> > because of this (still in check_clock):
> >
> >         const pid_t pid = CPUCLOCK_PID(which_clock);
> >
> >         if (pid == 0)
> >                 return 0;
> >
> > Which triggers all the times,
> 
> No, please note pid_of_sub_thread above.
> 
Sure, I saw that... I was referring to all the clock_getres() and
clock_{get,set}time() I was able to call without using directly
MAKE_THREAD_CPUCLOCK.

> > Which won't work because CPUCLOCK_PERTHREAD(which_clock) is always false
> > in this case.
> 
> I guess, this is because glibc passes MAKE_PROCESS_CLOCK() id, right?
> But we shouldn't add the hacks to the kernel to hide the limitations
> in glibc.
> 
Exactly. Actually, I didn't noticed this too when I first started with
this patch, and the fact that my first version worked -- which was by
chance, I can say it now :-P -- made me think it was worthwhile to bend
the semantic a bit, to enable this new capability... But making it work
is hackish, I see it now. Sorry. :-)

> BTW. What is the test-case? I am looking at http://gitorious.org/clockid,
> I guess it is clockid.c...
> 
Yep. A very trivial one, I agree, but it's just to show the issue.

> You do not need clock_getcpuclockid() at all. In fact I do not really
> understand what this helper should actually do, probably it is only
> needed to validate the pid. You can simply use MAKE_THREAD_CPUCLOCK()
> to sample a single thread via clock_gettime().
> 
Fine, but, is that macro available for an application developer? Because
I can find it in kernel and glibc sources, but not in my /usr/include/*,
which is the motivation behind this attempt... But it might be my
fault! :-P

> IOW. Unless I missed something, with this patch, the only problem
> is that getcpuclockid() always assumes MAKE_PROCESS_CPUCLOCK(),
> I do not think this is the kernel problem.
> 
Agreed, sorry for wasting (hopefully not too much) people's time. :-(

Thanks and Regards,
Dario

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-29 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-23 16:21 [PATCH] Read THREAD_CPUTIME clock from other processes Dario Faggioli
2010-12-23 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-23 17:38   ` Dario Faggioli
2010-12-23 18:12     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-24 11:36     ` Dario Faggioli
2010-12-23 17:21 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-12-23 17:43   ` Dario Faggioli
2010-12-28 10:55 ` [PATCH resend] Reading POSIX CPU timer from outside the process Dario Faggioli
2010-12-28 16:38   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-28 21:38     ` Dario Faggioli
2010-12-29 13:21       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-29 14:10         ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2010-12-29 18:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-30 17:45         ` torbenh
2011-01-04 11:01           ` Dario Faggioli
2011-01-06 16:06             ` torbenh
2011-01-07 19:28 ` [PATCH] Read THREAD_CPUTIME clock from other processes Roland McGrath
2011-01-07 19:35   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-07 19:50     ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-07 19:49       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-01-07 19:58         ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-07 19:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-08 11:12   ` Dario Faggioli

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