From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: samu.p.onkalo@nokia.com
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: RE: Bug in scheduler when using rt_mutex
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:28:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295278084.30950.127.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <90C2C3D80A94B8448891D39FF568E8760760B892@008-AM1MPN1-012.mgdnok.nokia.com>
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 15:15 +0000, samu.p.onkalo@nokia.com wrote:
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ext Peter Zijlstra [mailto:peterz@infradead.org]
> >Sent: 17 January, 2011 17:00
> >To: Onkalo Samu.P (Nokia-MS/Tampere)
> >Cc: mingo@elte.hu; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; tglx
> >Subject: Re: Bug in scheduler when using rt_mutex
> >
> >On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 16:42 +0200, Onkalo Samu wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I believe that there are some problems in the scheduling when
> >> the following happens:
> >> - Normal priority process locks rt_mutex and sleeps while keeping it
> >> locked.
> >
> >There's your fail, don't do that!
>
> So that is forbidden:
>
> rt_mutex_lock();
> wait_for_completion(); <--- shared HW finishes its job
> rt_mutex_unlock();
Well, its pointless, its non-deterministic, so you totally void the
usage of rt_mutex.
> >Why does I2C core use rt_mutex, that's utterly broken.
>
> To get low priority task finish ongoing I2C access in time under
> heavy load cases I think.
FYI, I'm queueing a revert for that patch. Random driver junk should not
_ever_ use that.
> >> Based on my debugging following sequence occurs (single CPU
> >> system):
> >>
> >> 1) There is some user process running at the background (like
> >> cat /dev/zero..)
> >> 2) User process reads sysfs entry which causes I2C acccess
> >> 3) User process locks rt_mutex in the I2C-core
> >> 4) User process sleeps while it keeps rt_mutex locked
> >> (wait_for_completion in I2C transfer function)
> >
> >That's where things go wrong, there's absolutely nothing you can do to
> >fix the system once you block while holding a mutex.
>
> Of course other processes are waiting until the (rt_)mutex is unlocked.
> Problem is that after the rt_mutex_unlock is done, the task which just released
> the lock, may be in some non-running state for minutes.
Yeah, saw that, writing a patch for that, there's more than one problem
there.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-17 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-17 14:42 Bug in scheduler when using rt_mutex Onkalo Samu
2011-01-17 15:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-17 15:15 ` samu.p.onkalo
2011-01-17 15:28 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-01-17 16:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-18 8:23 ` Onkalo Samu
2011-01-18 8:59 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-18 13:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-18 14:25 ` Onkalo Samu
2011-01-19 2:38 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-19 3:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-19 4:35 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-19 5:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-19 6:09 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-19 6:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-19 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-01-19 7:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-19 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 11:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-19 12:58 ` Onkalo Samu
2011-01-19 13:13 ` Onkalo Samu
2011-01-19 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-20 4:18 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-20 4:27 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-20 5:32 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-20 4:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-20 5:30 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-20 6:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-20 7:06 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-20 8:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-20 9:07 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-20 10:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-01-21 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 12:24 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-21 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 15:03 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-21 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-21 13:15 ` Yong Zhang
2011-01-20 7:07 ` Onkalo Samu
2011-01-21 6:25 ` Onkalo Samu
2011-01-20 3:10 ` Yong Zhang
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