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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
	Kamalesh Babulal <kamalesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Nikhil Rao <ncrao@google.com>
Subject: Re: [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 3/7] sched: throttle cfs_rq entities which exceed their local quota
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:05:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298545501.2428.18.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110224052101.GA2755@in.ibm.com>

On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 10:51 +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I will only answer a couple of your questions and let Paul clarify the rest...
> 
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 02:32:13PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 19:18 -0800, Paul Turner wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > @@ -1363,6 +1407,9 @@ enqueue_task_fair(struct rq *rq, struct 
> > >  			break;
> > >  		cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
> > >  		enqueue_entity(cfs_rq, se, flags);
> > > +		/* don't continue to enqueue if our parent is throttled */
> > > +		if (cfs_rq_throttled(cfs_rq))
> > > +			break;
> > >  		flags = ENQUEUE_WAKEUP;
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > > @@ -1390,8 +1437,11 @@ static void dequeue_task_fair(struct rq 
> > >  		cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
> > >  		dequeue_entity(cfs_rq, se, flags);
> > >  
> > > -		/* Don't dequeue parent if it has other entities besides us */
> > > -		if (cfs_rq->load.weight)
> > > +		/*
> > > +		 * Don't dequeue parent if it has other entities besides us,
> > > +		 * or if it is throttled
> > > +		 */
> > > +		if (cfs_rq->load.weight || cfs_rq_throttled(cfs_rq))
> > >  			break;
> > >  		flags |= DEQUEUE_SLEEP;
> > >  	}
> > 
> > How could we even be running if our parent was throttled?
> 
> The task isn't running actually. One of its parents up in the heirarchy has
> been throttled and been already dequeued. Now this task sits on its immediate
> parent's runqueue which isn't throttled but not really running also since
> the hierarchy is throttled. In this situation, load balancer can try to pull
> this task. When that happens, load balancer tries to dequeue it and this
> check will ensure that we don't attempt to dequeue a group entity in our
> hierarchy which has already been dequeued.

That's insane, its throttled, that means it should be dequeued and
should thus invisible for the load-balancer. If it is visible the
load-balancer will try and move tasks around to balance load, but all in
vain, it'll move phantom loads around and get most confused at best.

Pure and utter suckage if you ask me.

> > > @@ -1438,10 +1524,16 @@ static void account_cfs_rq_quota(struct 
> > >  
> > >  	cfs_rq->quota_used += delta_exec;
> > >  
> > > -	if (cfs_rq->quota_used < cfs_rq->quota_assigned)
> > > +	if (cfs_rq_throttled(cfs_rq) ||
> > > +		cfs_rq->quota_used < cfs_rq->quota_assigned)
> > >  		return;
> > 
> > So we are throttled but running anyway, I suppose this comes from the PI
> > ceiling muck?
> 
> When a cfs_rq is throttled, its representative se (and all its parent
> se's) get dequeued and the task is marked for resched. But the task entity is
> still on its throttled parent's cfs_rq (=> task->se.on_rq = 1). Next during
> put_prev_task_fair(), we enqueue the task back on its throttled parent's
> cfs_rq at which time we end up calling update_curr() on throttled cfs_rq.
> This check would help us bail out from that situation.

But why bother with this early exit? At worst you'll call
tg_request_cfs_quota() in vain, at best you'll find there is runtime
because the period tick just happened on another cpu and you're good to
go, yay!



  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-24 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-16  3:18 [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 0/7] Introduction Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 1/7] sched: introduce primitives to account for CFS bandwidth tracking Paul Turner
2011-02-16 16:52   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-17  2:54     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:11     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 20:53     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 2/7] sched: accumulate per-cfs_rq cpu usage Paul Turner
2011-02-16 17:45   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:33     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 12:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 3/7] sched: throttle cfs_rq entities which exceed their local quota Paul Turner
2011-02-18  6:52   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24  5:21     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 11:05       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-02-24 15:45         ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 15:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24 16:39             ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 17:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:59                 ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25  3:41         ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25  3:10     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 13:58       ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-25 20:51         ` Paul Turner
2011-02-28  3:50           ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-28  6:38             ` Paul Turner
2011-02-28 13:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-01  8:31         ` Paul Turner
2011-03-02  7:23   ` Bharata B Rao
2011-03-02  8:05     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 4/7] sched: unthrottle cfs_rq(s) who ran out of quota at period refresh Paul Turner
2011-02-18  7:19   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-18  8:10     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-23 12:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24  7:04     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 11:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-26  0:02     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 5/7] sched: add exports tracking cfs bandwidth control statistics Paul Turner
2011-02-22  3:14   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-22  4:13     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-22  4:40       ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23  8:03         ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23 10:13           ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:26     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25  8:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 6/7] sched: hierarchical task accounting for SCHED_OTHER Paul Turner
2011-02-22  3:17   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23  8:05     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  2:02   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-02-23  2:20     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  2:43     ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:25     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 12:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 7/7] sched: add documentation for bandwidth control Paul Turner
2011-02-21  2:47 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 0/7] Introduction Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 10:28   ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-23  7:42   ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  7:51     ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23  7:56       ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  8:31         ` Bharata B Rao
     [not found] ` <20110224161111.7d83a884@jacob-laptop>
2011-02-25 10:03   ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 13:06     ` jacob pan
2011-03-08  3:57       ` Balbir Singh
2011-03-08 18:18         ` Jacob Pan
2011-03-09 10:12       ` Paul Turner
2011-03-09 21:57         ` jacob pan

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