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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	David Sharp <dhsharp@google.com>,
	Vaibhav Nagarnaik <vnagarnaik@google.com>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>, Ken Chen <kenchen@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] tracing: Adding cgroup aware tracing functionality
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:08:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302347315.9086.1246.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1302282130.21026.45.camel@frodo>

On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 13:02 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-04-08 at 16:07 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > > As you said perf has a lot of overhead due to data that it saves per
> > > event. 
> > 
> > Someday you should actually read the perf code before you say something.
> 
> I have looked at the code although not as much recently, but I do plan
> on looking at it again in much more detail. But you are correct that I
> did not make this comment on the code itself, but on looking at the
> data:

> 1051776/8766 = 119

> 2957312/38268 = 77
> 
> As you stated, I need to look more into the perf code (which I plan on
> doing), but it seems that perf adds 42 bytes more per event. Perhaps
> this is something we can fix. 

Aside from the 8 byte header everything else is configurable with
PERF_SAMPLE_flags and probably has some overlap with stuff we also have
in the tracepoint data we then get through PERF_SAMPLE_RAW

> I'd love to make both perf and ftrace be
> able to limit its header. There's no reason to record the pid for every
> event if we don't need to. As well as the preempt count and interrupt
> status. But these are legacy from the latency tracer code from -rt.

Right.

> I think there's a lot of work that we can do make tracing in perf more
> compatible with the tracing features of ftrace. I did say the ugly word
> "roadmap" but perhaps it's just direction that we need. I feel we are
> all a bunch of cooks with their own taste, and we don't all like the
> spices used by each other.

Partly yeah, but there's also real functional differences, the last time
I profiled perf with perf (yay for recursion) we spend a lot of time in
conditionals. Due to the fact that perf is mainly sampling based (and
tracing being samples with period==1) and all that output
configurability there's a true forest of if statements to pass through
and I'm fairly sure we totally trash the branch predictor on that.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-09 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-06 18:50 [RFC] tracing: Adding cgroup aware tracing functionality Vaibhav Nagarnaik
2011-04-07  1:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-07  3:17   ` Vaibhav Nagarnaik
2011-04-07 12:06     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-07 20:22       ` David Sharp
2011-04-07 21:32         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-07 22:42           ` David Sharp
2011-04-08  0:28             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08  7:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-08 13:45                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08 14:07                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-08 18:32                     ` Michael Rubin
2011-04-08 20:27                       ` Justin TerAvest
2011-04-08 14:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-08 17:02                   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-09 11:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-04-08 19:00                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08 20:38                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08 21:41                     ` David Sharp
2011-04-12 21:38                       ` Frederic Weisbecker

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