From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] time: Add locking to xtime access in get_seconds()
Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 13:40:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1304628050.20980.34.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304627098.3131.1.camel@edumazet-laptop>
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 22:24 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le jeudi 05 mai 2011 à 13:17 -0700, john stultz a écrit :
> > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:57 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > I suspect the reason this hasn't been triggered on x86 or power6 is due
> > > > to compiler or processor optimizations reordering the assignment to in
> > > > effect make it atomic. Or maybe the timing window to see the issue is
> > > > harder to observe?
> > >
> > > On x86 all aligned stores are atomic. So I don't see how this
> > > could be a problem ever.
> >
> > No no. The issue was with the fact that in update_xtime_cache we modify
> > xtime_cache twice (once setting it possibly backwards to xtime, then
> > adding in the nsec offset).
> >
> > Since get_seconds does no locking, this issue should be visible
> > anywhere, as long as you manage to hit the race window between the first
> > assignment and the second.
> >
> > However, in the testing, the issue only showed up on P7, but not P6 or
> > x86.
> >
> > My guess was that the code:
> >
> > xtime_cache.sec = xtime.sec
> > xtime_cache.nsec = xtime.nsec
> > xtime_cache.sec = xtime_cache.sec
> > + div(xtime_cache.nsec + nsec, NSEC_PER_SEC, &rem);
> > xtime_cache.nsec = rem
> >
> > Was getting rearranged to:
> >
> > xtime_cache.sec = xtime.sec
> > + div(xtime.nsec + nsec, NSEC_PER_SEC, &rem);
> > xtime_cache.nsec = rem
> >
> >
> > Which makes the xtime_cache.sec update atomic.
> >
> > But its just a guess.
>
> Sure (disassembly could help to check this), but get_seconds() reads
> xtime.tv_sec ;)
Currently, yes.
But as I mentioned in an earlier mail, the problem was with
2.6.32-stable.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-05 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-04 3:11 [PATCH] time: Add locking to xtime access in get_seconds() John Stultz
2011-05-04 3:52 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-05 2:54 ` john stultz
2011-05-05 5:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 6:21 ` john stultz
2011-05-05 6:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 8:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-05 18:51 ` john stultz
2011-05-05 14:04 ` [RFC] time: xtime_lock is held too long Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 14:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-05 15:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 15:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-05 21:01 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 1:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 6:55 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 10:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-06 10:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-06 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-07 8:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-06 16:59 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 17:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 17:17 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 17:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 17:50 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 19:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 20:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 20:24 ` john stultz
2011-05-06 22:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 22:46 ` john stultz
2011-05-06 23:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-06 23:28 ` john stultz
2011-05-07 5:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-07 7:11 ` Henrik Rydberg
2011-05-09 8:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-12 9:13 ` [PATCH] seqlock: don't smp_rmb in seqlock reader spin loop, [PATCH] seqlock: don't smp_rmb in seqlock reader spin loop Milton Miller
2011-05-12 9:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 14:08 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-06 20:18 ` [RFC] time: xtime_lock is held too long john stultz
2011-05-05 17:57 ` [PATCH] time: Add locking to xtime access in get_seconds() Andi Kleen
2011-05-05 20:17 ` john stultz
2011-05-05 20:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 20:40 ` john stultz [this message]
2011-05-05 20:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-05 20:56 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-04 16:51 ` Max Asbock
2011-05-04 21:05 ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-04 23:05 ` john stultz
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