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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86: Make the x86-64 stacktrace code safely callable from scheduler
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 06:48:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305283706.22280.40.camel@frodo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305232326-9804-3-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com>

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 22:32 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Avoid potential scheduler recursion and deadlock from the
> stacktrace code by avoiding rescheduling when we re-enable
> preemption.

I'm curious to where you saw this deadlock? As I have the function stack
tracer using preempt_disable_notrace and enable_notrace without any
issues, and it traces all functions in the kernel[*]. I have no issue
with using raw_local_irq_save/restore() if it is to protect the per_cpu
variable from interrupt corruption, but I don't see the problem with
recursion.

There's only one function I had to worry about with preempt disable, not
the entire scheduler. That was the function preempt_schedule(). This
function is called by preempt_enable() and that will cause an infinite
loop if you have something in preempt_schedule() call preempt_enable().

Remember that ftrace_preempt_disable/enable() crap that I did to try to
avoid the scheduler deadlock? I found it was complex and unnecessary
because the scheduler itself was not an issue, it was only
preempt_schedule(). I replaced all that crappy code with a single line
that added notrace to preempt_schedule() and everything just worked.

Thus, if you disable interrupts to protect the cpu data, that's fine,
and say so in the change log. I really like to know if you really saw
this deadlock. Yes enabling preemption in the scheduler may recurse, but
it will only do so once.

I still argue that interrupt enabling is slow. I've seen a large slow
down of the code by switching stack tracer from preempt disable to irq
disable. I used perf to see why, and it told me that disabling
interrupts as fine, but enabling interrupts can cost you quite a bit.

-- Steve

[*] of course function tracing does not trace other notrace functions.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-13 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-12 20:32 [GIT PULL] x86 stacktrace updates Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-12 20:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86: Remove warning and warning_symbol from struct stacktrace_ops Frederic Weisbecker
2011-07-14 11:01   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-14 13:50     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-12 20:32 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: Make the x86-64 stacktrace code safely callable from scheduler Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-12 20:40   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-12 21:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 21:43     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-12 21:55       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 10:48   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2011-05-13 12:48     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-13 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 13:29         ` Frederic Weisbecker

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