From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
"npiggin@kernel.dk" <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [patch V3] percpu_counter: scalability works
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:20:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305634807.2850.89.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110517095001.GF20624@htj.dyndns.org>
Le mardi 17 mai 2011 à 11:50 +0200, Tejun Heo a écrit :
> I'm not asking to make it more accurate but the initial patches from
> Shaohua made the _sum() result to deviate by @batch even when only one
> thread is doing _inc() due to the race window between adding to the
> main counter and resetting the local one. All I'm asking is closing
> that hole and I'll be completely happy with it. The lglock does that
> but it's ummm.... not a very nice way to do it.
>
> Please forget about deviations from concurrent activities. I don't
> care and nobody should. All I'm asking is removing that any update
> having the possibility of that unnecessary spike and I don't think
> that would be too hard.
>
Spikes are expected and have no effect by design.
batch value is chosen so that granularity of the percpu_counter
(batch*num_online_cpus()) is the spike factor, and thats pretty
difficult when number of cpus is high.
In Shaohua workload, 'amount' for a 128Mbyte mapping is 32768, while the
batch value is 48. 48*24 = 1152.
So the percpu s32 being in [-47 .. 47] range would not change the
accuracy of the _sum() function [ if it was eventually called, but its
not ]
No drift in the counter is the only thing we care - and _read() being
not too far away from the _sum() value, in particular if the
percpu_counter is used to check a limit that happens to be low (against
granularity of the percpu_counter : batch*num_online_cpus()).
I claim extra care is not needed. This might give the false impression
to reader/user that percpu_counter object can replace a plain
atomic64_t.
For example, I feel vm_committed_as could be a plain atomic_long_t
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-17 12:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-11 8:10 [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Shaohua Li
2011-05-11 8:10 ` [patch v2 1/5] percpu_counter: fix code for 32bit systems for UP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11 8:10 ` [patch v2 2/5] lglock: convert it to work with dynamically allocated structure Shaohua Li
2011-05-11 8:10 ` [patch v2 3/5] percpu_counter: use lglock to protect percpu data Shaohua Li
2011-05-11 8:10 ` [patch v2 4/5] percpu_counter: use atomic64 for counter in SMP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11 9:34 ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12 2:40 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-11 8:10 ` [patch v2 5/5] percpu_counter: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add Shaohua Li
2011-05-11 9:28 ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 2:48 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12 8:21 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 8:55 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12 8:59 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12 9:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 9:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12 9:05 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-13 3:09 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13 4:37 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13 5:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 5:28 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13 6:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 7:33 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13 14:51 ` [patch] percpu_counter: scalability works Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 15:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:35 ` [patch V2] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 22:03 ` [patch V3] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 0:58 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16 6:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 6:37 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16 6:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 7:15 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16 7:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 8:34 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16 9:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 14:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 0:55 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17 4:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 5:22 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17 9:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 9:11 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 9:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 9:50 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 12:20 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-05-17 12:45 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 13:04 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 14:02 ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 14:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-18 1:00 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12 14:38 ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Christoph Lameter
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