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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
	"npiggin@kernel.dk" <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [patch V3] percpu_counter: scalability works
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:20:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305634807.2850.89.camel@edumazet-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110517095001.GF20624@htj.dyndns.org>

Le mardi 17 mai 2011 à 11:50 +0200, Tejun Heo a écrit :

> I'm not asking to make it more accurate but the initial patches from
> Shaohua made the _sum() result to deviate by @batch even when only one
> thread is doing _inc() due to the race window between adding to the
> main counter and resetting the local one.  All I'm asking is closing
> that hole and I'll be completely happy with it.  The lglock does that
> but it's ummm.... not a very nice way to do it.
> 
> Please forget about deviations from concurrent activities.  I don't
> care and nobody should.  All I'm asking is removing that any update
> having the possibility of that unnecessary spike and I don't think
> that would be too hard.
> 

Spikes are expected and have no effect by design.

batch value is chosen so that granularity of the percpu_counter
(batch*num_online_cpus()) is the spike factor, and thats pretty
difficult when number of cpus is high.

In Shaohua workload, 'amount' for a 128Mbyte mapping is 32768, while the
batch value is 48. 48*24 = 1152.
So the percpu s32 being in [-47 .. 47] range would not change the
accuracy of the _sum() function [ if it was eventually called, but its
not ]

No drift in the counter is the only thing we care - and _read() being
not too far away from the _sum() value, in particular if the
percpu_counter is used to check a limit that happens to be low (against
granularity of the percpu_counter : batch*num_online_cpus()).

I claim extra care is not needed. This might give the false impression
to reader/user that percpu_counter object can replace a plain
atomic64_t.

For example, I feel vm_committed_as could be a plain atomic_long_t




  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-17 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11  8:10 [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 1/5] percpu_counter: fix code for 32bit systems for UP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 2/5] lglock: convert it to work with dynamically allocated structure Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 3/5] percpu_counter: use lglock to protect percpu data Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 4/5] percpu_counter: use atomic64 for counter in SMP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  9:34   ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12  2:40     ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 5/5] percpu_counter: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  9:28 ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  2:48   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12  8:21     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  8:55       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12  8:59         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  9:02           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12  9:03             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12  9:05             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-13  3:09               ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  4:37               ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  5:20                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13  5:28                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  6:34                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13  7:33                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13 14:51                       ` [patch] percpu_counter: scalability works Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 15:39                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:35                           ` [patch V2] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:46                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 22:03                               ` [patch V3] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  0:58                                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  6:11                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  6:37                                     ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  6:55                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  7:15                                         ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  7:44                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  8:34                                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  9:35                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 14:22                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  0:55                                                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17  4:56                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  5:22                                                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17  9:01                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  9:11                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17  9:45                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  9:50                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 12:20                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2011-05-17 12:45                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:00                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 13:04                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:55                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 14:02                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 14:38                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-18  1:00                                                                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12 14:38   ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Christoph Lameter

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