From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
markus@trippelsdorf.de, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu,
linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:11:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1306847516.2353.80.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110531125621.GA24439@gere.osrc.amd.com>
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 14:56 +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> Hey Peter,
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:31:20PM +0000, tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Commit-ID: f01114cb59d670e9b4f2c335930dd57db96e9360
> > Gitweb: http://git.kernel.org/tip/f01114cb59d670e9b4f2c335930dd57db96e9360
> > Author: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> > AuthorDate: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:26:55 +0200
> > Committer: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> > CommitDate: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:19:56 +0200
> >
> > sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups
> >
> > Markus reported that commit 317f394160e ("sched: Move the second half
> > of ttwu() to the remote cpu") caused some accounting funnies on his AMD
> > Phenom II X4, such as weird 'top' results.
> >
> > It turns out that this is due to non-synced TSC
>
> this would mean that his machine doesn't pass the TSC sync check at boot
> but that's a F10h and they usu. have synchronized TSCs?
>
> I'm confused.
Well, I don't have a modern AMD system to verify on, but the only
explanation is sched_clock weirdness (different code from the GTOD tsc
stuff). I could not reproduce on an Intel Westmere machine, but could on
a Core2.
The sched_clock_cpu stuff basically takes a GTOD timestamp every tick
and uses sched_clock() (tsc + cyc2ns) to provide delta increments, when
TSCs are synced every cpu should return the same value and the patch is
a nop.
If they aren't synced the per-cpu sched_clock_cpu() values can drift up
to about 2 jiffies (when the ticks drift about 1 and the slower of the
two has a stuck tsc while the faster of the two does progress at the
normal rate). In that case doing a clock update cross-cpu will ensure
time monotonicity between those two cpus.
So by this patch making a difference we prove that sched_clock_cpu()'s
aren't synced on the affected machines. That leaves two options, either
the TSC are screwy or there's a bug somewhere in the sched_clock* code.
I'd be more than happy if you could take a look at the relevant code
since all code can use more eyes :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-31 22:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-30 17:39 Very high CPU values in top on idle system (3.0-rc1) Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 18:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-30 18:23 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 20:45 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 22:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 9:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 10:04 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-31 12:31 ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 12:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31 13:11 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-06-01 7:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-01 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-01 15:50 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-02 7:52 ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-02 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-02 14:23 ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-02 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03 6:49 ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-03 9:57 ` Milton Miller
2011-06-03 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03 10:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-07 13:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-07 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
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