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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	markus@trippelsdorf.de, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups
Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:11:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1306847516.2353.80.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110531125621.GA24439@gere.osrc.amd.com>

On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 14:56 +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> Hey Peter,
> 
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:31:20PM +0000, tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Commit-ID:  f01114cb59d670e9b4f2c335930dd57db96e9360
> > Gitweb:     http://git.kernel.org/tip/f01114cb59d670e9b4f2c335930dd57db96e9360
> > Author:     Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> > AuthorDate: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:26:55 +0200
> > Committer:  Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> > CommitDate: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:19:56 +0200
> > 
> > sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups
> > 
> > Markus reported that commit 317f394160e ("sched: Move the second half
> > of ttwu() to the remote cpu") caused some accounting funnies on his AMD
> > Phenom II X4, such as weird 'top' results.
> > 
> > It turns out that this is due to non-synced TSC
> 
> this would mean that his machine doesn't pass the TSC sync check at boot
> but that's a F10h and they usu. have synchronized TSCs?
> 
> I'm confused.

Well, I don't have a modern AMD system to verify on, but the only
explanation is sched_clock weirdness (different code from the GTOD tsc
stuff). I could not reproduce on an Intel Westmere machine, but could on
a Core2.

The sched_clock_cpu stuff basically takes a GTOD timestamp every tick
and uses sched_clock() (tsc + cyc2ns) to provide delta increments, when
TSCs are synced every cpu should return the same value and the patch is
a nop.

If they aren't synced the per-cpu sched_clock_cpu() values can drift up
to about 2 jiffies (when the ticks drift about 1 and the slower of the
two has a stuck tsc while the faster of the two does progress at the
normal rate). In that case doing a clock update cross-cpu will ensure
time monotonicity between those two cpus.

So by this patch making a difference we prove that sched_clock_cpu()'s
aren't synced on the affected machines. That leaves two options, either
the TSC are screwy or there's a bug somewhere in the sched_clock* code.

I'd be more than happy if you could take a look at the relevant code
since all code can use more eyes :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-31 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-30 17:39 Very high CPU values in top on idle system (3.0-rc1) Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 18:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-30 18:23   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 20:45     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-30 22:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31  9:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 10:04           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-05-31 12:31           ` [tip:sched/urgent] sched: Fix cross-cpu clock sync on remote wakeups tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-31 12:56             ` Borislav Petkov
2011-05-31 13:11               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-06-01  7:05                 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-01 10:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-01 15:50                     ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-02  7:52                       ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-02 13:04                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-02 14:23                           ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-02 15:48                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03  6:49                               ` Yong Zhang
2011-06-03  9:57                               ` Milton Miller
2011-06-03 10:36                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03 10:55                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-03 10:58                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-07 13:12                               ` Borislav Petkov
2011-06-07 13:16                                 ` Peter Zijlstra

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