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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: David Oliver <david@rgmadvisors.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shawn Bohrer <sbohrer@rgmadvisors.com>,
	Zachary Vonler <zvonler@rgmadvisors.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Change in functionality of futex() system call.
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:23:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1307384634.2497.736.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1307380297.3098.74.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 19:11 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le lundi 06 juin 2011 à 19:05 +0200, Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> 
> > Dunno, using futexes on private file maps is stupid imo, its just asking
> > for trouble, ro private file maps are even worse. Forcing the COW is the
> > only sane answer in that it gives consistent results and 'breaks' silly
> > expectations early instead of sometimes.
> > 
> > Anyway, that's not really the issue here, as David uses MAP_SHARED (as
> > one should if one is interested in the shared value).
> 
> Sure, but maybe another guy is 'stupid' and uses MAP_PRIVATE on its
> read-only mappings. With old kernels this was working, and we were not
> doing the COW.
> 
> (Note : the other process writes to the file, using MAP_SHARED)

That's really not the point, what do we do when the COW happens during
the FUTEX_WAIT? At that point the process vaddr changes mapping and we
cannot continue the wait on the old page, since that would expose
invisible information, nor can we switch to the new page since we queued
on the old page.

Therefore we have to force the COW and queue on the private copy, it
really is the only semi sane semantic.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-06 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-06 14:28 Change in functionality of futex() system call David Oliver
2011-06-06 15:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 15:56   ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-06 16:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 16:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 16:22       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 16:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 16:42           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 17:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-06 17:11               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-06 17:27                 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-06-06 17:56                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-06 18:23                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-06-06 18:27                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-25  0:00                     ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 16:48                     ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-06 17:53             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-06 18:11               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07  3:13                 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-07  3:49                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 14:44                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-06-07 15:56                     ` Darren Hart
2011-06-07 15:58                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 18:43                       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 19:01                         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-07 19:04                           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 19:06                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-07 19:10                         ` David Oliver
2011-06-07 19:19                           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 19:33                             ` David Oliver
2011-06-07 19:53                               ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 20:04                                 ` David Oliver
2011-06-07 20:12                                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-07 22:26                             ` Kyle Moffett
2011-06-08 15:20                               ` David Oliver
2011-06-08 15:21                                 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-08 16:21                                 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-09 11:37                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-09 12:05                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-09 17:58                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-10  3:30                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10  3:26                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-07 18:30                 ` Joel Becker
2011-06-09 12:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-10 12:10       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-10 17:29         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-13  2:11           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-13 15:50             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-15 18:50         ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-15 18:54           ` Darren Hart
2011-06-17 13:40             ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-22 19:19             ` [PATCH RFC] futex: Fix regression with read only mappings Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-22 20:14               ` Darren Hart
2011-06-23  2:51                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-23 15:26                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-23 19:49                     ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-24 15:59                       ` [PATCH v2] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-25  0:37                         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-25 15:10                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-27 16:40                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-27 18:15                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-27 20:41                               ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 21:08                                 ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-27 21:39                                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 22:14                                     ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-27 23:17                                       ` Darren Hart
2011-06-27 22:22                                     ` [PATCH v3] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-28 10:54                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-28 14:52                                         ` Darren Hart
2011-06-28 17:38                                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-28 20:58                                             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-28 23:55                                             ` Darren Hart
2011-06-29 14:56                                               ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-29 15:17                                               ` [PATCH v4] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-29 18:41                                                 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-29 23:38                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-30  4:19                                                   ` Darren Hart
2011-06-30 14:02                                                     ` David C. Oliver
2011-06-30 15:41                                                       ` Darren Hart
2011-06-30 16:21                                                         ` [PATCH v5] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-07-12 15:27                                                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-07-25 15:20                                                           ` Shawn Bohrer
2011-07-25 19:28                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-07-26 19:04                                                           ` [tip:core/urgent] " tip-bot for Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-28 10:50                                     ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-28 14:19                                       ` Darren Hart
2011-06-28 14:23                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-23  3:58                 ` [PATCH RFC] " Shawn Bohrer
2011-06-23  3:23             ` Change in functionality of futex() system call KOSAKI Motohiro
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-09  0:44 George Spelvin
2011-06-09  3:02 ` Darren Hart
2011-06-09  3:38   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-09  3:54     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-09  4:10       ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-09  5:11         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-09 12:12           ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-06-09  4:43       ` George Spelvin
2011-06-09  5:25         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-06-09  4:44       ` Kyle Moffett

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