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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Armin Steinhoff <armin@steinhoff.de>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Johannes Bauer <hannes_bauer@aon.at>,
	Monica Puig-Pey <puigpeym@unican.es>,
	Rolando Martins <rolando.martins@gmail.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Changing Kernel thread priorities
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:37:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1307439469.2322.235.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DEDF1F2.2080204@steinhoff.de>

On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 11:40 +0200, Armin Steinhoff wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> when I read all these confusing statements here ( in german it looks 
> like an "Eiertanz")  ... I can only say:
> 
> - do the basic stuff in a minimal kernel driver
> - use UIO (or VFIO for PCI devices)

I see no requirement for any of those horrid things to be used. You can
write a full on proper kernel driver, it just cannot set kernel thread
priorities to a sane value (let them all default to 50 or so).

Then have a user space script or whatever set the kthread priorities.

> and you get clean control about your real-time priorities.
> 
> I think changing the priorities of "interrupt threads" inside the kernel 
> could lead to strange race conditions in the kernel.

No, changing the priority in the kernel is a perfectly sound operation,
it just doesn't make any sense to do so since its impossible to
determine a proper priority.

Therefore setting a priority is a pure user policy and should not be
done by the driver itself -- it simply cannot do it right so why bother
doing it.




  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-07  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-07  8:27 Changing Kernel thread priorities Johannes Bauer
2011-06-07  8:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-07  9:40   ` Armin Steinhoff
2011-06-07  9:37     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-06-07 11:02       ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-07 14:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-07 14:57           ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-06-07 15:15           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-07 23:38             ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2011-06-07 23:35         ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2011-06-08 17:50           ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-08 19:49             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-10 14:04               ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-10 15:37                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-11 17:16                   ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-09 11:19             ` Nicholas Mc Guire
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2011-06-07  8:32   ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-07  8:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-06 12:10 Johannes Bauer
2011-06-06 22:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-04 11:48 One Interrupted Threads per Interrupt line? Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-04 12:03 ` I/O operations priority in RTOS Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-04 12:30   ` kernel threads in drivers using the RT patch Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 11:47     ` Changing Kernel thread priorities Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 11:54       ` Rolando Martins
2011-06-06 11:58         ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 16:49           ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07  8:40             ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-07  9:14               ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07  9:46                 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07 18:34                   ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-07 18:55                     ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-10 10:12                       ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 18:20       ` Armin Steinhoff

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