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From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:47:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1308667632.2997.10.camel@vence> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106211306.26016.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 13:06 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2011, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> > "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is the 4th update of the patchset adding support for generic I/O PM
> > > domains.  
> > >
> > > The patches have been reworked quite a bit to take feedback into
> > > account, but I left the Greg's ACK in [4/8] in the hope it still applies
> > > (Greg, please let me know in case it doesn't :-)).
> > >
> > > The model here is that a bunch of devices share a common power resource
> > > that can be turned on and off by software.  In addition to that, there
> > > are means to start and stop the activity of each device, for example
> > > by manipulating their clocks.  Moreover, there may be hierarchy of
> > > such things, for example power resource A may be necessary for devices
> > > a, b, c, which don't rely on any other power resources, and for devices
> > > x, y, z that also rely on power resource X.  In that case there one PM
> > > domain object representing devices a, b, c and power resource A, and 
> > > another PM domain object will represent devices x, y, z with power
> > > resource X, plus the first object will be the second one's parent.
> > >
> > > Note to Kevin: I know you'd like each PM domain to be able to go into several
> > > different states, but the situation will always be that in some of those
> > > states the devices' registers will remain intact, while in the rest of those
> > > states they will be reset.  Say, there are states 1, 2, 3, 4 and states
> > > 1-3 preserve device registers.  Then it is not necessary to save device
> > > registers for "domain" states 1-3 and it only is necessary to save them
> > > when going to state 4.  In that case, .power_off() may map to the "go to
> > > state 4" operation (and analogously .power_on()), while the rest may be
> > > done by .stop_device() and .start_device().  IOW, .power_is_off == true
> > > means "the devices' registers have to be restored", so it need not map to
> > > any particular physical state of a (hardware) power domain.
> > 
> > Sure, but it's not only about register context save/restore.  It's about
> > the the governor hook and how you decide which state to enter.  IOW, the
> > governor decision is not only about whether or not you will lose
> > register context but also about the latency involved in entering &
> > exiting those states.
> > 
> > So from my perspective, having only 2-states at this level makes the
> > governor rather pointless since any decision making will have to be done
> > where ever the knowledge of the mulitple power states lives.
> 
> Well, in principle you can make the governor whatever you want, so it may
> as well know of multiple states.
> 
> Anyway, if using multiple domain states turns out to be useful at the core
> level, it may be added later with a separate patch.

OK

> > > Note to Magnus and Paul: I didn't use a global lock as suggested, because
> > > I think it may lead to completely unnecessary congestion in situations in
> > > which there are no hierarchies of PM domains.  It is quite easy to show that
> > > the code doesn't deadlock, because (1) no more than 2 locks are held by the
> > > same thread at a time (parent lock and child lock) and (2) they are always
> > > acquired in the same order (parent before the child).
> > >
> > > Overall, I think I've taken all of the important dependencies into
> > > consideration, but if you spot something suspicious, please let me know. :-)
> > > Wakeup is not covered at this point, because it's not necessary for the
> > > SH7372's A4LC power domain that's the first user of the new code, but it
> > > is quite clear how add the support for it.  Also, for more complicated
> > > cases it is necessary to take QoS requirements (latencies) into account,
> > > which is in the works (kind of).
> > >
> > > [1/8] - Update documentation to reflect the fact that struct dev_power_domain
> > >         callbacks take precedence over subsystem PM callbacks.
> > >
> > > [2/8] - Rename struct dev_power_domain to struct dev_pm_domain to reflect the
> > >         fact that those objects need not correspond to hardware power domains
> > >         directly.
> > >
> > > [3/8] - Move subsys_data in struct dev_pm_info out of #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME
> > >
> > > [4/8] - Introduce runtime PM support for generic I/O PM domains.
> > >
> > > [5/8] - Introduce generic "noirq" callbacks for system suspend/hibernation
> > >         (that's necessary for the next patches).
> > >
> > > [6/8] - Move some PM domains support code fro under #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME
> > >
> > > [7/8] - Add system-wide PM support for generic I/O PM domains.
> > >
> > > [8/8] - Use the new code to represent the SH7372's A4MP power domain.
> > >
> > > The patchset has been tested on SH7372 Mackerel board and appears to work
> > > correctly.
> > >
> > > I'd like to push [1/8] for 3.0 (it may be regarded as a fix), but I _think_
> > > that it may be a good idea to push [2/8] for 3.0 too, to limit the time in
> > > which people may possibly use the naming that's going to change in their new
> > > code.  If you agree with that, please let me know, I'll need some serious
> > > ACKs below that patch if it's to be pushed for 3.0. ;-)
> > 
> > Just gave you my ack,
> 
> I thought the ACK was for [2/8] only, so do I understand correctly that it's
> for the entire series? :-)

So far, only for 2/8.  I'm planning to spend some time looking at the
rest of the series today.

Kevin

> > but [2/8] will need a minor update to apply on
> > Linus' master branch since another fix to mach-omap1/pm_bus.c just got
> > merged[1] via the OMAP tree.
> 
> Yes, I already rebased my patches on top of 3.0-rc4.
> 
> > I don't have any other fixes touching those files queued for v3.0 so I
> > don't expect any other conflicts there.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael



  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-21 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-11 20:23 [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:25 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM / Domains: Update documentation Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:26 ` [PATCH 2/8] PM / Domains: Rename struct dev_power_domain to struct dev_pm_domain Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20 23:37   ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-11 20:27 ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: subsys_data in struct dev_pm_info need not depend on RM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:31 ` [PATCH 4/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:02   ` [Update][PATCH 4/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 17:42     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22  0:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 19:51         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 21:30           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: Introduce generic "noirq" callback routines for subsystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 6/8] PM / Domains: Move code from under #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:39 ` [PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic PM domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 23:28   ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:06   ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20 23:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 21:50     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 22:16       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 22:18         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 22:22           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 13:57             ` [PATCH] PM / Runtime: Update documentation of interactions with system sleep Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-24 18:25               ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-23 14:19         ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v3) Alan Stern
2011-06-23 14:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 15:11             ` Alan Stern
2011-06-23 17:41               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 18:22                 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-23 21:03                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:40 ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O PM domains for SH7372 (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-14 13:12   ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-14 21:16     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-15 14:17       ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-15 23:06         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:07           ` [Update][PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20  2:01             ` Paul Mundt
2011-06-20 22:30               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 11:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 12:47                   ` Paul Mundt
2011-07-10 11:45         ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O PM domains for SH7372 (v5) Laurent Pinchart
2011-06-11 20:57 ` [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Greg KH
2011-06-21  0:02 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-21 11:06   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 14:47     ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2011-06-25 21:24 ` [PATCH 0/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:24   ` [PATCH 1/10 v6] PM / Domains: Rename struct dev_power_domain to struct dev_pm_domain Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:25   ` [PATCH 2/10 v6] PM: subsys_data in struct dev_pm_info need not depend on RM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:26   ` [PATCH 3/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30  6:14     ` Ming Lei
2011-06-30 18:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 18:11     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-01 20:03       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:27   ` [PATCH 4/10 v6] PM: Introduce generic "noirq" callback routines for subsystems (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:27   ` [PATCH 5/10 v6] PM / Domains: Move code from under #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:28   ` [PATCH 6/10 v6] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-28 23:44     ` [Update][PATCH 6/10] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08  0:29       ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-08  9:24         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 14:37           ` Alan Stern
2011-07-08 17:20             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-08 18:06               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 19:24                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-09 14:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-11 15:37                     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-11 19:39                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 17:56             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:29   ` [PATCH 7/10 v6] PM / Domains: Don't stop wakeup devices during system sleep transitions Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-29 23:50     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 19:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30 22:42         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 22:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30 23:14             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 23:28               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01  0:01                 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-01  0:24                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 14:34                     ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 23:25             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 14:45               ` Alan Stern
2011-07-01 20:06                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:30   ` [PATCH 8/10 v6] PM: Allow the clocks management code to be used during system suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:30   ` [PATCH 9/10 v6] PM: Rename clock management functions Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:31   ` [PATCH 10/10 v6] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-27  4:07     ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-27 19:25       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-27 23:21         ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-28 10:08           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 18:27   ` [PATCH 0/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains Kevin Hilman

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