From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip, final] perf, x86: Add hw_watchdog_set_attr() in a sake of nmi-watchdog on P4
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:17:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1309871841.3282.148.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110705131005.GA5843@elte.hu>
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:10 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > perf, x86: P4 PMU - Add hw_watchdog_set_attr helper to simulate cpu-cycles counting in nmi-watchdog
> >
> > Because of constraints existed in Netburst PMU counting
> > cpu cycles is allowed for one consumer only.
> >
> > If the kernel is booted up with nmi-watchdog enabled
> > the watchdog become a consumer of such event and there
> > is no more room left for "perf top" and friends (ie any
> > attempts to count cpu cycles simultaneously with nmi-watchdog
> > doomed to fail).
>
> Hm, what is the symptom - 'perf top' reports nothing?
>
> If multiple users request cycles then perf will time-share them -
> this is what happens if you run many 'perf top' or 'perf stat'
> sessions in parallel for example. For example i just tried to run six
> separate 'perf top' in parallel - and all six worked fine.
>
> So the question is, why does the NMI watchdog prevent 'perf top' from
> working on a P4?
because the NMI watchdog is a pinned event, you don't want to share the
counter, that would be very bad, suppose you lock up when the NMI
watchdog was scheduled out. Unreliably debug tools are worse than no
tools.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-05 13:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-05 10:03 [PATCH -tip, final] perf, x86: Add hw_watchdog_set_attr() in a sake of nmi-watchdog on P4 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 10:34 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 10:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 11:05 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 11:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 11:36 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 11:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 11:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 12:14 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 13:17 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-07-05 13:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 14:19 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-08 12:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 14:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05 14:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-05 14:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-05 15:25 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-06 7:01 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-08 12:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-08 13:01 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-08 13:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-07-08 13:12 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 13:26 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 12:24 ` Don Zickus
2011-07-05 12:26 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-07-05 12:44 ` Don Zickus
2011-07-05 12:56 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
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