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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, david <david@lang.hm>,
	Nico Schottelius <nico-lkml-20110623@schottelius.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Mis-Design of Btrfs?
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:20:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1310735821-sup-2589@shiny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E20395C.1000301@redhat.com>

Excerpts from Ric Wheeler's message of 2011-07-15 08:58:04 -0400:
> On 07/15/2011 12:34 PM, Chris Mason wrote:

[ triggering IO retries on failed crc or other checks ]

> >
> > But, maybe the whole btrfs model is backwards for a generic layer.
> > Instead of sending down ios and testing when they come back, we could
> > just set a verification function (or stack of them?).
> >
> > For metadata, btrfs compares the crc and a few other fields of the
> > metadata block, so we can easily add a compare function pointer and a
> > void * to pass in.
> >
> > The problem is the crc can take a lot of CPU, so btrfs kicks it off to
> > threading pools so saturate all the cpus on the box.  But there's no
> > reason we can't make that available lower down.
> >
> > If we pushed the verification down, the retries could bubble up the
> > stack instead of the other way around.
> >
> > -chris
> 
> I do like the idea of having the ability to do the verification and retries down 
> the stack where you actually have the most context to figure out what is possible...
> 
> Why would you need to bubble back up anything other than an error when all 
> retries have failed?

By bubble up I mean that if you have multiple layers capable of doing
retries, the lowest levels would retry first.  Basically by the time we
get an -EIO_ALREADY_RETRIED we know there's nothing that lower level can
do to help.

-chris

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-15 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-23 10:53 Mis-Design of Btrfs? Nico Schottelius
2011-06-27  6:46 ` NeilBrown
2011-06-29  9:29   ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-14  5:56     ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14  6:02       ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-14  6:38         ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14  6:57           ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15  2:32             ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15  4:58               ` david
2011-07-15  6:33                 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-15 11:34                   ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 12:58                     ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15 13:20                       ` Chris Mason [this message]
2011-07-15 13:31                         ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15 14:00                           ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 14:07                             ` Hugo Mills
2011-07-15 14:24                               ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 14:47                                 ` Christian Aßfalg
2011-07-15 14:54                                 ` Hugo Mills
2011-07-15 15:12                                   ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 16:23                         ` david
2011-07-15 16:51                           ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15 17:01                             ` david
2011-07-15 17:23                               ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15 13:55                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-07-15 16:03                   ` david
2011-07-14  9:37           ` Jan Schmidt
2011-07-14  9:55             ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14 16:27           ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2011-07-14 16:55           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-07-14 19:50             ` John Stoffel
2011-07-14 20:48               ` david
2011-07-14 20:50               ` Erik Jensen
2011-07-14  6:59         ` Arne Jansen

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