From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753171Ab1IGQeu (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:34:50 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:38314 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752046Ab1IGQdh convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Sep 2011 12:33:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/18] writeback: fix dirtied pages accounting on redirty From: Peter Zijlstra To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Jan Kara , Wu Fengguang , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Dave Chinner , Greg Thelen , Minchan Kim , Vivek Goyal , Andrea Righi , linux-mm , LKML Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:19:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20110907065635.GA12619@lst.de> References: <20110904015305.367445271@intel.com> <20110904020916.841463184@intel.com> <1315325936.14232.22.camel@twins> <20110907002222.GF31945@quack.suse.cz> <20110907065635.GA12619@lst.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.2- Message-ID: <1315383587.11101.18.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 08:56 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 02:22:22AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote: > > > So wtf is ext4 doing? Shouldn't a page stay dirty until its written out? > > > > > > That is, should we really frob around this behaviour or fix ext4 because > > > its on crack? > > Fengguang, could you please verify your findings with recent kernel? I > > believe ext4 got fixed in this regard some time ago already (and yes, old > > delalloc writeback code in ext4 was terrible). > > The pattern we do in writeback is: > > in pageout / write_cache_pages: > lock_page(); > clear_page_dirty_for_io(); > > in ->writepage: > set_page_writeback(); > unlock_page(); > end_page_writeback(); > > So whenever ->writepage decides it doesn't want to write things back > we have to redirty pages. We have this happen quite a bit in every > filesystem, but ext4 hits it a lot more than usual because it refuses > to write out delalloc pages from plain ->writepage and only allows > ->writepages to do it. Ah, right, so it is a fairly common thing and not something easily fixed in filesystems. Ok so I guess the patch is good. Thanks!