From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753951Ab1I1JRc (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:17:32 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:33203 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751434Ab1I1JRb convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:17:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Proposal for optimistic suspend idea. From: Peter Zijlstra To: John Stultz Cc: lkml , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , arve@android.com, markgross@thegnar.org, Alan Stern , amit.kucheria@linaro.org, farrowg@sg.ibm.com, "Dmitry Fink (Palm GBU)" , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, khilman@ti.com, Magnus Damm , mjg@redhat.com, Thomas Gleixner Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:16:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1317164216.3112.711.camel@work-vm> References: <1317064434-1829-1-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org> <1317068164.1763.39.camel@twins> <1317076065.3112.539.camel@work-vm> <1317119870.15383.29.camel@twins> <1317164216.3112.711.camel@work-vm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3- Message-ID: <1317201399.18012.4.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 15:56 -0700, John Stultz wrote: > > > I do think my idea is neat, so we can spend/burn time debating it, but > if you have viable suggestions (and honestly, I think rewriting all of > userland isn't viable) on solving the larger problem, I'm all ears. > And yet, rewriting all of userspace is exactly what Android did, they had the perfect opportunity of doing it right, but they came up with the worst solution ever. As for my laptop, I really would like the firefox guys to add a 'feature' that stops JS on non-visible tabs and preferably also drop all data after a little while. firefox is the #1 wakeup thing on my machine and its mostly invisible (minimized) and when its not, I can only stare at a single tab anyway.