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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul@paulmenage.org,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, daniel.lezcano@free.fr,
	jbottomley@parallels.com, fweisbec@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/14] Change CPUACCT to default n
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:29:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1322152152.2921.64.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ECE6BC4.7090600@parallels.com>

On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 14:07 -0200, Glauber Costa wrote:
> OTOH, if the use case for it includes separating processes for the cpu 
> and cpuacct cgroups in an independent manner - which apparently it does, 
> I've just learned, there isn't much we can do except try to make it cheaper.

Yeah it allows that, but is that really useful? If we buy that argument
shouldn't we split up controllers to be as minimal as possible to that
you get as great a number of independent cgroups as possible?

That way lies madness if you ask me. The two biggest controllers we
currently have are cpu and memcg, and they aren't as orthogonal as you
might think, see how cpusets has both a task affinity as well as node
affinity side.

The more comprehensive these controllers become, the greater also the
overlap in functionality and thus a reduction in separation.

Really, what is the killer case for separating all this nonsense? And
no: 'Because $ustomer wants it', doesn't count.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-24 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-01 21:19 [PATCH v2 00/14] per-cgroup /proc/stat Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] trivial: initialize root cgroup's sibling list Glauber Costa
2011-11-11 21:34   ` Paul Turner
2011-11-14 19:44     ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-14 21:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 23:42   ` [tip:sched/core] sched, trivial: Initialize " tip-bot for Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] Change cpustat fields to an array Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] Move /proc/stat logic inside sched.c Glauber Costa
2011-11-12  1:35   ` Paul Turner
2011-11-12 10:27     ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] split kernel stat in two Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] Display /proc/stat information per cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] Make total_forks per-cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] per-cgroup boot time Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] Report steal time for cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] Keep nr_iowait per cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-10 10:27   ` Andrew Wagin
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] Keep number of context switches per-cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] provide a version of cpuacct statistics inside cpu cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] Keep number of running processes per-cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-14 14:42   ` Andrew Wagin
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] provide a version of cpuusage statistics inside cpu cgroup Glauber Costa
2011-11-09 11:51   ` Andrew Wagin
2011-11-09 11:58     ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-09 14:18       ` Andrew Wagin
2011-11-09 15:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-09 16:51         ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-10  8:59           ` Andrew Wagin
2011-11-01 21:19 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] Change CPUACCT to default n Glauber Costa
2011-11-11 21:33   ` Paul Turner
2011-11-12 10:29     ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-15 11:02       ` Paul Turner
2011-11-16 10:21         ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-16 23:52           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-17  2:49             ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-17  2:58               ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-17 15:58                 ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-21  1:59                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-11-24 13:24                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-24 16:07                       ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-24 16:29                         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-11-24 16:38                           ` Glauber Costa
2011-11-24 16:58                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-25  5:38                             ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-25 10:19                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-26 13:18                                 ` Paul Turner
2011-11-28  8:29                                   ` Balbir Singh
2011-11-25  2:05         ` Li Zefan
2011-11-25 10:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-26 13:07           ` Paul Turner

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